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Chat with MAD, Ying Lan, and of course Vance

December 20, 1998


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*** Welcome to The Virtual School House Vance!

Vance: @64,64 !It's Vance

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Ying-Lan: @64,64 !It's Ying-Lan (She appears in a cartoon bunny avatar)

Ying-Lan: hi

Ying-Lan: Vance

Vance: Hi, what's up, Doc?

Ying-Lan: ^Doc?

Vance: That's what Bugs Bunny always says.

Vance: What's up, Doc? (Doc = Doctor)

Vance: Doc is a disrespectful way to address a doctor, which is why it's funny.

Vance: So, what's up?

Ying-Lan: ^Nothing

Vance: I'm hoping we'll have a few more students tonight.

Ying-Lan: ^The House of Representatives impeached President Clinton Saturday.

ˇKˇKWhy is there no preposition-on before "Saturday"?

ˇK.setting the stage for only the second Senate trial in U.S. his

Vance: "on

Ying-Lan: ^I want to ask you this question. "in U.S. history" Or "in the U.S. history"?

Vance: "on" is 'understood' - That means, it's there but invisible.

Ying-Lan: ^on is understood?

Vance: In U.S. history

Ying-Lan: ^They impeached President Clinton on Saturday.

Vance: Or, in the history of the U.S.

Ying-Lan: ^You said "in the U.S.A." not "In U.S.A."

Ying-Lan: ^In history of U.S.?

Vance: It's "the" USA

Ying-Lan: ^Vance, I am confused.

Vance: In the history of the USA

Vance: There's a pattern in English: the ... of ...

Ying-Lan: ^In the history of US = in the history of the U.S.A.

Vance: as in, the eye of the tiger, the year of the cat ..

Vance: The United States OF America

Vance: the ... of ...

Ying-Lan: Yeap

Vance: Or, it could be the US - That means 'the United States'

Ying-Lan: ^Sorry, for your question you hope more students will stay here.

Ying-Lan: ^I have no idea about that.

Vance: Which United States? THE United States (we use THE for unique things)

Vance: I like to talk about grammar.

Ying-Lan: ^me too. I hate to do the grammar exercise.

Vance: Have you got grammar exercises to do?

Ying-Lan: ^I always be mad by these exercise.

Ying-Lan: ^I have to pass the test.

Vance: What are some more questions?

Vance: I'll help you with them.

Ying-Lan: ^I don't which one is correct.

Ying-Lan: ^I don't know which one is correct.

Vance: Which are you not sure of?

Ying-Lan: ^padern

Vance: pattern

Ying-Lan: I don't understand your sentece.

Vance: A pattern is like the print on a cloth, something that repeats itself

Ying-Lan: ^I have to remeber it.

Ying-Lan: ^Have you heard about the "Function Grammar"?

Vance: Functional syllabus?

Vance: Notional functional?

Ying-Lan: sorry i'm on phone

Vance: In what context do you mean, "function grammar"? No problem (phone)

Ying-Lan: ^I heard "Function Grammar" from a teacher who is from Australia

Vance: How did he use the expression?

Ying-Lan: ^She said it is not necessary to remember those grammar rules... by Function Grammar.

Ying-Lan: ^I am curious what is the Function Grammar but I lost her email address.

Vance: Let's see if we can find "funtion grammar" on Altavista.

Ying-Lan: ^I asked Michaelc before. but he disagress some theory of the funtion grammar.

Vance: I'm not familiar with the theory. I thought I knew a lot about theories of grammar.

Ying-Lan: ^I just tried to read some article and thought about the grammer of the sentence.

Vance: That's a good thing to do.

Ying-Lan: ^Well, I like to watch HBO more than read books.

Ying-Lan: ^So I did not get any improvement for "Grammar Test".

Vance: You could learn grammar from HBO too.

Ying-Lan: ^I spent a lot time on Stock Market. I felt sad and almost lost myself.

Ying-Lan: ^That's why I still do not pass the Grammar Test.

Ying-Lan: ^I feel ashame.

Ying-Lan: ^Bad woman, I am not a girl again.

Vance: I think grammar comes from reading, from noticing patterns.

Ying-Lan: ^I wish I was a gril.

Vance: Woman, girl is relative.

Vance: I mean, to your parents you are a girl.

Ying-Lan: ^For foreigner, Grammar is weird.

Ying-Lan: ^Is it easy for you to learn Grammar and Spelling?

Ying-Lan: ^Wait, Would you mind to tell me again? Which one is correct.

Vance: In another language? Very difficult.

Vance: Which one what?

Ying-Lan: The House of Representatives impeached President Clinton Saturday.

Vance: either is correct.

Vance: "On" Saturday is most correct.

Ying-Lan: ^Thansk.

Vance: Welcome

Ying-Lan: ^Vance, Do you think why we speak different Languages in the world.

Vance: Do I wonder why? Hmmm ... interesting question ... I guess because people were once isolated.

Ying-Lan: ^We are humen. We have to eat, sleep.... to do same thing but to speak different languages.

Ying-Lan: ^We speak different lauguages with different cultures.

Vance: Maybe we speak the same language, it just comes out differently in dfferent places.

Vance: People are basically the same with the same desires and pains.

Ying-Lan: ^" it just comes out differently in dfferent places."

Vance: I mean, we want to say the same thing, we just say it in different ways.

Ying-Lan: ^Desire makes people destroyed themselves and also makes improvement of the social.

Vance: of the social condition?

Ying-Lan: ^"The different ways" is a kind of punishment for students.

Vance: Once I was crossing from Bulgaria to Turkey. The border policeman asked me something in Bulgarian.

Vance: I replied, "Istanbul", because I knew what he would be asking.

Vance: He was shocked. He thought I spoke Bulgarian and was trying to sneak out of the country.

Ying-Lan: ^On other hand, "The differnt ways" help some people to make money.

Vance: This was when there was a high fence at the Bulgarian border.

Ying-Lan: ^The policeman asked you what

Vance: That's true. I make money teaching people different ways to communicate what they already know how to say.

Ying-Lan: ^"Why do people speak different languages?

Vance: The policeman asked me "Where are you going" in Bulgarian. I couldn't understand him but I knew what he was asking.

Ying-Lan: ^The same thing has two side way.

Ying-Lan: ^You knew what he said... just you are traveling.

Ying-Lan: ^you were travelling.

Vance: I had crossed many borders. At each border, the policeman always asks, "Where are you going?"

Vance: But this policeman thought I was Bulgarian trying to exit the country on a fake American passport.

Vance: I was just traveling, for fun.

Ying-Lan: ^When I traveled the Scandinavia, nobody want to check my passport.

Vance: Where did you enter Europe?

Vance: At what airport?

Ying-Lan: ^First I was in Amerstand and to STockholm

Vance: Didn't they check your passport in Amsterdam?

Ying-Lan: ^I went to Stockhom via Amsterdam.

Vance: Did you go by train or plane?

Ying-Lan: ^NO, I just stayed at airport. By plane.

Vance: I think I flew to London and on to Copenhagen once, and they didn't check my passport in Copenhagen.

Ying-Lan: ^Only one time. when I arrived in Helski.. the police did not check the passenger except me.

Vance: I guess you were the only one who looked "foreign".

Ying-Lan: ^I am Chinese, My appearance is different from Finland...

Ying-Lan: ^I hopr to be Scandianavia again.

Ying-Lan: ^Ten years later.

Ying-Lan: ^It is not so easy to travel again.

Vance: Ten years from now?

Ying-Lan: ^Yes.

Vance: Have you ever traveled in mainland China?

Ying-Lan: ^Not yet.

Ying-Lan: ^I only went to overseas twice.

Vance: Where was the other place?

Ying-Lan: ^Vancouver, Canada

Vance: And now you're hoping to go back to Vancouver?

Ying-Lan: ^I hope so.

Ying-Lan: ^That's why I bought stock ... I hope to gain a lot of money to suuport myself to live in Vancouver.

Vance: I like Vancouver. It's a pleasant place. I like jogging around the park, the ferries, the skiing near town.

Ying-Lan: ^Now, it is dream.

Ying-Lan: ^It is very beautiful.

Vance: What percentage of your annual salary did you lose?

Ying-Lan: ^one year.

Ying-Lan: more

Ying-Lan: ^It is very seorious.

Vance: So, your plans are set back by one year or more.

Ying-Lan: ^I felt sad not for myself just for my aunt.

Vance: Did your aunt lose money too?

Ying-Lan: ^She asked me to bought stock for her. You know I was very lucky last year (1997)

Vance: Did you gain money the year before?

Ying-Lan: ^I sold my stocks before the Asia Ciris.

Ying-Lan: ^I am faild this year... Everything is wrong.

Ying-Lan: ^I can not face my aunt.

Ying-Lan: ^That's my fault,,, Why did I want to tell her about my investment?

Ying-Lan: ^I am painful... all the day.

Vance: Wait, that's her fault if she invested her money.

Vance: You aren't responsible for how she invests her money. She must understand it's a gamble.

Ying-Lan: ^But I should deny her...

Vance: deny her?

Ying-Lan: ^I lost myself... I though I am more lucky than her and I could help her.

Ying-Lan: ^I should say "No" to her, I did not think "Everything will change in 1998"

Vance: You mean, you should have denied her ..

Vance: You should have said ... (makes it past)

Ying-Lan: ^I should have rejected her.

Vance: Well, she shouldn't have asked you.

Ying-Lan: ^I knew...

Ying-Lan: ^My mother said that's my weakness.

Vance: In our culture, people are more responsible for themselves.

Ying-Lan: ^I always want to hlep other people if I could do. Sometimes I only got pain and hurt myself.

Vance: I mean, if I took advice from my brother and lost, I can't blame him.

Ying-Lan: ^Now, I understand I can not promise somthing for another people.

Ying-Lan: ^I can not promise something beyond my ability.

Ying-Lan: ^ I have to confess I was wrong.

Vance: But how could you promise. There is no such thing as promises on the stock market. Everyone knows that.

Ying-Lan: ^that's my fault.

Ying-Lan: ^I was stupid.

Ying-Lan: ^No more clever.

Maggi: @64,64 !It's Maggi

Ying-Lan: hi maggi

Maggi: Hi all!

Ying-Lan: Nice to meet you.

Vance: Hi MAD. I was expecting a whole LOT of students, but at least Ying-Lan is here.

Maggi: Nice to see is used only for the first time...

Ying-Lan: ^Snow covers your land

Maggi: Parts of it...but it should snow tomorrow...

Ying-Lan: ^Nice to see you.

Maggi: I hope not...

Maggi: ...I am flying to Holland

Vance: Right now?

Ying-Lan: ^Really... to take your Christmas vacation?

Maggi: No, tomorrow :-)

Maggi: No, actually to meet someone...:-)

Ying-Lan: ^For work..

Ying-Lan: hi

Vance: Who are you meeting?

Maggi: a man...

Ying-Lan: Dating

Vance: A mystery man?

Vance: The ultimate blind date?

Ying-Lan: ^We are curious..

Ying-Lan: sorry

Maggi: only a mystery in that we have not met in the flesh...

Ying-Lan: in the flesh

Vance: But you have perhaps met in cyberspace?

Maggi: funny, that is what we thought too!

Maggi: but a blind date means you know nothing about the person beforehand...

Vance: I think by "in the flesh" she means "in person" (let's hope)

Maggi: Oh yes, we met online and know each other pretty well now.

Maggi: hehehe...yes in person Vance...

Vance: Did you meet him here at the Palace, or via EFI?

Ying-Lan: ^Maggi, are you in your vacation?

Ying-Lan: ^You have not to work tomorrow?

Maggi: No, I have class all morning tomorrow Ying...I met him in ICQ...

* Vance * on vacation

* Vance * I was having trouble whispering

Ying-Lan: icq

Vance: So, we don't know him, then.

Maggi: Nope...

Ying-Lan: ^But you said you will fly to Holland to meet him tomorrow

Maggi: An Englishman in for the UN in Den Haag...

Vance: But cool, you have a cyber-date in Holland tomorrow.

Vance: Which avatar will you wear

Ying-Lan: ^It is not necessary to wear avator by ICQ>

Maggi: No, tomorrow I have a "real" date and wish I could wear an avator...

Ying-Lan: ^"You wish to wear avator....."that mean you can not wear avator. Is it right?

Vance: I was only kidding Maggi. You can't really wear an avatar.

Vance: What if Maggi appeared in Holland with 3 eyes!!

Maggi: Well, I have some nice ones that I would like to wear!

Vance: Have you seen your acquaintance's picture?

Maggi: Well, the Dutch kiss 3 times...

Vance: That's a good start.

Maggi: Yes...we know what the other looks like.

Vance: Is he another teacher?

Vance: Oh, he works for the UN ...

Maggi: He is an investigator for the War Tribunal Court...

Maggi: He just came back from Croatia...

Vance: That's the court Clinton should be in right now, not the impeachment court.

Ying-Lan: ^Do you think it will be dangerous for making friend by internet?

Maggi: That depends Ying...

Maggi: Prorbably Vance...are you safe enough where you are?

Ying-Lan: ^To Depends what I am lucky or not?

Ying-Lan: ^Vance, are you all right in UAE

Maggi: Depends on distance too!

Vance: We're safe here, but the world is outraged.

Maggi: As they should be...

Vance: Well, makes you wonder why the US just didn't bomb the Serbs.

Ying-Lan: ^Serbs?

Vance: I was bringing the conversation back around to the War Crimes Tribunal.

Maggi: Well, someone needs to do something about Milosevic...while attention is diverted he is arresting people right and left

Vance: I think he's a lot more dangerous than Saddam Hussain, especially since he's unchecked.

Maggi: He seems to think he has a free rein in Kosovo...

Maggi: The guy is not so stupid either.

Ying-Lan: ^Vance , who is he? Clinton or Maggi's friend?

Maggi: No, Ying...the Serbian dictator.

Ying-Lan: ^War will start again?

Maggi: It looks close in Kosovo...

Ying-Lan: Europe has some problems now.

Maggi: Yes, it is a European problem...

Vance: I hate to leave an interesting discussion but my wife just called.

Maggi: Is

Ying-Lan: ^Germany will defence the peace of the Europe.

Maggi: Is Michael c

Maggi: comiong?

Maggi: coming?

Vance: I haven't been in touch with Michael C. I saw him online earlier.

Ying-Lan: ^I can not find Michaelc by ICQ

Vance: Me neither.

Maggi: No...maybe he had a hot is hot down there!!!!!!

Ying-Lan: It is summer in Australia

Vance: It's warm here too. I've got to pack up and go meet my wife. She has the car.

Ying-Lan: bye

Ying-Lan: vance, will you come here next week.

Ying-Lan: ^It is Christmas vacation next week.

Vance: Of course. We work normally here. I mean, no Christmas break.

Vance: It's a muslim country. We're in Ramadhan now.

Ying-Lan: Poor Vance.

Ying-Lan: ^Do you eat at day time?

Vance: I don't mind. My son is here for the holidays. The one who lives in California.

Maggi: I think Vaqnce will live...the spirit lives on all year...

Maggi: see...

Vance: I sneak food from my desk drawer during work hourse.

Vance: hours.

Ying-Lan: I see.

Maggi: I would hate being only able to eat at night...

Ying-Lan: ^Say bve to Vance, his wife is waiting for him in Car.

Maggi: bye Vance

Ying-Lan: bye

Vance: It's actually nice during Ramadhan. Work hours are shorter.

Maggi: hmmm

Ying-Lan: That's nice.

Vance: Stores are open till midnight.

Ying-Lan: really

Ying-Lan: Have a fun.

Vance: Everyone comes out at night. You can have meals in big tents.

Vance: It's pleasant.

Vance: Enjoy your meeting in Holland. That's exciting.

Maggi: stores open to midnight...

Maggi: wow...would never happen here...

Maggi: I will Vance...

Vance: Yeah, people sleep until evening, then the stores open up.

Maggi: give you the scoop next week

Vance: I'll look for you next week. See you then Y'L?

Maggi: This could be it...:-)

Vance: If it works for you, maybe Y-L should try it!!

Maggi: was just a fluke...

Maggi: a coincidence Ying...

Vance: bye, I've shut down every other computer. This is the last one ...

Maggi: ok...bye

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