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Chat with Ying-Lan, Gosia, Felix/Bahia, MAD, Michael, and Dodo at the Palace

October 11, 1998

*** Welcome to The Virtual School House Vance!

Vance: @64,64 !It's Vance

Vance: ^Hello students. If you come early I'm probably away from my computer. I'll be back at 11:30 GMTsharp. I'll see what you say in my chat log.

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Vance: @64,64 !It's Vance

Brazil: @64,64 !It's Brazil

Brazil: Hi


Vance: hi. I've got Gosia on icq

Brazil: Who is Gosia ??

Vance: Gosia is another student. Are you on icq now?

Brazil: Is the class finishing ??

Brazil: yes I am

Ying-Lan: @64,64 !It's Ying-Lan

Brazil: Hi Ying.

Brazil: We are in ICQ .. Wanna Join us ??

Ying-Lan: What did you mean "We are in ICQ"?

Brazil: We are chatting in ICQ.. Vance, Gosia and I...

Ying-Lan: why?

Brazil: Gosia is having trouble with the palace

Vance: Oh hi Ying Lan.

Ying-Lan: Ask Vance to invite me to chat.

Vance: We're chatting to Gosia ... OK

Ying-Lan: He know how to do.

Ying-Lan: hi, Vance

Brazil: Hi Gosia

We're in ICQ for a while solving Gosia's problem. When we return to the Palace ...

Gosia: Woo I've made it

Ying-Lan: hi

Ying-Lan: Congratulation

Brazil: So... What was the problem ??

Brazil: Congratulations..

Gosia: Hi everybody

Vance: Yay!

Vance: We made it.

Ying-Lan: Where do we stay?

Ying-Lan: she is gone

Brazil: Where did she go ?/

Vance: bad connection

Vance: I'll look on ICQ

Brazil: She is not there

Ying-Lan: ^Vance, did you taught David how to enter Palace last night?

Vance: I thought David already knew how to enter the Palace.

Brazil: ying, my dream is see this room full of students...

Brazil: It will be exciting...

Ying-Lan: ^Vance, Did you teach David how to enter the Palace yesterday? How could you do to the log box by ICQ?

Vance: I don't see Gosia anywhere

Brazil: I sent her an icq message....

Brazil: Ying do you know that if you click on zzzzz box in icq chat it is going to minized and then everytime a person writes something it's going to open it automatically ??!!

Ying-Lan: no.

Ying-Lan: I am stupid at computer.

Vance: I didn't know that

Brazil: It`s great... Try it now...

Vance: Keep talking .. I'll be right back ..

Ying-Lan: what is that?

Brazil: Click on the Zzzzz box and i will show you

Ying-Lan: Tell me a gain. Where is the zzzzzz box?

Brazil: in the left hand side.. at the top...

Brazil: It's an yellow balloon..

Gosia: I;ve just get to The Place and I have to leave you

Vance: Gosia, so soon

Ying-Lan: I press it but it iz minizum button.

Brazil: it's not necessary to leave her Gosia... Just minimize this windows

Vance: At least now you know how to come here

Gosia: I have an appointment but next time I will stay all time

Vance: Can you come on Tuesday?

Ying-Lan: I saw it opened auto. why?

Brazil: Did you see how it worked Ying ??

Gosia: Yes I will be on next Sunday so bye and have a nice week

Ying-Lan: I am not sure.

Vance: OK, next sunday ...

Brazil: click on zzz again...

Vance: Whew ... hectic!

Ying-Lan: Gosia, why do she leave quickly?

Vance: I was in the Palace at 10:30 GMT and she came then

Vance: But I got disconnected and didn't find her.

Vance: So she's been trying to find us, and finally got in

Vance: So what are you guys figuring out about ICQ?

Ying-Lan: When is it the

Ying-Lan: ^What time is it in GMT?

Vance: I've got it, you put it to sleep. Bahia, say something on ICQ

Brazil: I know lots of things about icq

Ying-Lan: ^What time is it in GMT now?

Vance: In GMT I think it's 12:45

Vance: My ICQ is still asleep

Vance: Excellent trickBahia.

Brazil: CTRL + G makes a sound in ICQ too

Ying-Lan: ^I came here late,?

Vance: That's OK Yin-Lan.

Vance: Sorry, Ying-Lan

Brazil: Me either Ying.. I had problems with electricity here.

Ying-Lan: When you start this class?

Vance: You too, Bahia

Brazil: yes, me too

Ying-Lan: ^Vance, you told me "... one hour from now"....

Vance: Do you often have electrical problems there?

Vance: Well, that was at 2:30 my time, and now it's after 4:30

Brazil: nope.. But the electricity company has cutting down some branchs of the tress in my neighborhood.

Vance: It doesn't matter, we all made it

Brazil: of the trees

Vance: So your electricity was out?

Brazil: yes....

Brazil: since 6:30 am...

Vance: Is this a day off for both ofyou?

Ying-Lan: ^It is 8:55 p.m. in Taiwan now. The class begun at 7.50 in Taiwan. it is right?

Brazil: it's 10:51 am now...on a Sunday... You are using daylight saving time here..

Vance: Yes, the class was supposed to begin at 7:30

Brazil: it began today..

Brazil: at at 9:30 my time right Vance..

Brazil: and at...

Ying-Lan: ^I was here at that time. There is no body in.

Ying-Lan: ^there was no body in.

Ying-Lan: forgot

Vance: I had to give a seminar earlier, so I was 5 min late

Vance: I connected the Palace and went to the seminar

Brazil: You give lots of seminar right Vance ??

Vance: I left a note saying I would be back

Vance: But when I got back it was disconnected

Vance: This was just a seminar for some of the teachers

Ying-Lan: ^Let me tell you something, I appreciat your help and your great web site. It is amazing.

Brazil: yes, I agree with you Ying..

Vance: Did you see Ying-Lan's web page Bahia?

Brazil: yes.. I did yesterday...

Vance: I like the picture with the reindeer.

Brazil: me too...

Ying-Lan: ^He read these articles before. He is my classmate in Vera's class.

Vance: Good. I told you I left a note for Vera.

Brazil: I try to be in all the classes here at the palace..

Vance: That's good. Do you feel it helps you?

Vance: You must, or you wouldn't come.

Ying-Lan: ^How do you say the words or sentence at the bottom of the screen when we watch the movie?

Brazil: Of course... I have a friend in Canada that we talk on microphone so it is helping me a lot too..

Brazil: Caption...

Brazil: ying

Vance: Good. I was trying to figure that one out, Bahia.

Vance: When you talk on microphone, do you use PowWow?

Brazil: i have 2 movies in English that the captions are in English too.

Brazil: Nope. I use iphone...

Ying-Lan: cations?

Vance: captions

Brazil: Captions

Ying-Lan: ^Captions...

Vance: Is that closed-caption movies, Bahia?

Brazil: yes Vance...

Ying-Lan: ^Is it correct? Caption is a head line.... but the words is explanation...

Ying-Lan: and translation.

Vance: Yes, both are correct.

Ying-Lan: ^Vance, you answer me?

Vance: A caption is the few words next to a picture in a magazine, for example.

Ying-Lan: ^And then?

Vance: It means a few words to explain something detailed.

Brazil: What I mean ying is that I have 2 movies (The Rose Purple of Cairo and Mississipi Burning) that I have listen their English and see what they are talking on the screen too.. Understand now ?

Ying-Lan: ^Yes, I do.

Vance: Yeah, closed-caption is movies or tv where the text of the sound appears.

Ying-Lan: ^Closed - caption

Vance: Originally I think it was for deaf people, but obviously language learners can use it.

Brazil: that`s right Vance... Primarily closed-caption were created on Tv to help death people. But now lots of English students are using it..

Vance: It's the law in the USA that tv's sold there have to have the closed-caption decoder

Ying-Lan: ^Have you seen a movie called "Antonia's Line"?

Vance: deaf people

Brazil: LOL.. Vance we wrote the same thing...LOL

Vance: Antonia's line? I never heard of it.

Vance: What's Antonia's line about ?

Ying-Lan: ^Academy Award Winner for Best Foreign Film in 1996. I love the movies. But I don't know how to describe it.

Brazil: ...

Ying-Lan: ^By the way, Chinese movie always have the closed-capatio... not only for deaf.

Brazil: Why Ying ??

Ying-Lan: ^it is hard for me to watch the movie without the closed-caption.

Brazil: Why ??? You mean English movies or Chinese ones ?/

Ying-Lan: ^Both.

Ying-Lan: ^Do you feel strange? Chinese movie with the Chines closed-cation.

Brazil: yes it;s so strange...

Ying-Lan: ^We think it is normal.

Ying-Lan: ^Maybe Chinese actor don't speak good Chinese... it is a joke.

Vance: That's interesting.

Brazil: LOL

Brazil: Do you know any jokes about blond girls ??

Vance: Why is that? Is it because of dialects in Chinese?

Brazil: brb my daughter is crying...

Ying-Lan: ^When I visited Vancouber in 1996 I went to movie ..... Frustrated... I cound not understand what it is.

Vance: I think it's very difficult to understand films and radio in a foreign language.

Vance: Do you have to attend to your daughter, Bahia?

Brazil: I am back...

Brazil: She is a 2 year old girl with a temper.... got it ?

Vance: Yeah, my kids are pretty big. One is grown and living in California.

Ying-Lan: ^I really do not understand why the Chinese Movie with the Chinese closed-caption. We speak the same langue now. Chinese could speak Chinese and their dialect.

Vance: The other is 13 and living with us.

Brazil: my older boy is only 6... I am 26 years old.. And a girl is to due for January

Ying-Lan: ^Brazil, you got marriage early.

Vance: Starting a big family!

Brazil: yes,, with 18 years old..

Ying-Lan: Really?

Brazil: But I will quit it...

Vance: When you were 18, that's early.

Brazil: yes,, She was pregnant

Ying-Lan: ^You just were a child when you were 18 years old.

Brazil: yes, but she lost the baby after we got married...

Ying-Lan: ^You are great.

Vance: I got married when I was almost 30!

Brazil: I love to tease her saying: I should have waited more... got it ??

Ying-Lan: ^I am single. I am 35 years old.

Vance: So you've had 3 kids since then?

Brazil: We both laughed a lot...

Brazil: my third one is going to be born in January

Ying-Lan: ^Brzail.....

Brazil: do you have kids ying ?

Ying-Lan: ^You are happy.... with your family.

Vance: By single, I think Ying means she never got married ... right?

Brazil: Yes, very very very happy..

Ying-Lan: ^I have no idea about the kid.

Ying-Lan: ^I never find my soul mate...LOL

Brazil: LOL

Vance: Better late than never!

Brazil: But you will find him Ying.

Ying-Lan: ^It is very hard me... Because I always afraid of the future.

Brazil: I love my wife and family and if I got divorced I would never marry again...LOL

Vance: Me too. I love being married and having kids.

Ying-Lan: ^Don't say anything about "DIVORCE". please.

Brazil: ok ying,,,

Ying-Lan: ^you will hurt your wife.

Ying-Lan: Forget the word.

Brazil: She says the same thing to tease me ying...

Vance: Sounds like a healthy relationship.

Brazil: yes, we are...

Brazil: we play a lot with each other.....

Vance: You must, 3 kids ...

Ying-Lan: ^When she was a child, she got marriage with you... I went to juniou college when I was 18... but your wife had to care of your family. She is great.

Brazil: Brazilian people are very very outgoing and talkative

Brazil: LOL@Vance

Brazil: She is 4 years older than me... But if she finds out I am saying that she will kill me.. LOL

Vance: Speaking of family, I'm going to have to go ..

Brazil: I love to tell her that she raped me...

Ying-Lan: ^The class will be close?

Brazil: Thanks for spending your precious time with us Vance...

Vance: ... on the other hand, this is starting to get interesting ...

Vance: No, you can stay.

Brazil: yes, it is...

Vance: I'm at work, working late

Brazil: do you like jokes Ying...

Ying-Lan: Do you think I can write more for my web site?

Vance: It's after 5 now

Brazil: i want to post some links there Vance.. can i??

Vance: Sure, of course. Ying, you are the model for the other students.

Ying-Lan: ^hi, Vance, I plan to write.;... about the Norcope

Vance: Sure, Ying - did you see Bahia's picture at the web site?

Brazil: what is Norcope ??

Ying-Lan: not yet.

Vance: The Norcope??

Ying-Lan: ^The small village of Norway

Vance: Nordcap?

Brazil: i want to post some pictures of Brazil too...

Ying-Lan: ^yes

Ying-Lan: ^I just ask my friend to scan some pictures.

Vance: I've been to Nordcap, to see the midnight sun.

Brazil: can we post whatever we want here Vance ??

Ying-Lan: ^It will take a long time to write.

Ying-Lan: ^Vance, you are lucky... I went there late, I did not see the midnigh sun.

Brazil: Vance whatever i ask you to post there, i want you first to correct the English ok?

Vance: To post pictures and things that take up space, it's better if you start your own web sites.

Vance: I can tell you how

Brazil: i would love it...

Vance: This is because at Geocities, you get 11 megabytes of free space

Brazil: i am completly lost to do my own hp..

Vance: I've used about 9 meg

Brazil: WOW

Vance: So I have only 2 more.

Vance: But anyone can start a web page at geocities and get 11 meg.

Ying-Lan: ^May mine is too big.

Vance: If you can use Microsoft word you can make your own web page.

Ying-Lan: How to post them?

* Brazil * How do you know that a blond girl used the computer ??

Vance: You just register with Geocities to start one.

* Vance * beats me, how?

dodo: @64,64 !It's dodo

Ying-Lan: dodo

Vance: Dodo! Hi.

Ying-Lan: who is dodo

* Brazil * You see the white out on screen.. LOL

Brazil: Hi dodo

dodo: new student

Vance: Hi new student. We're talking about starting our own web pages at Geocities.

dodo: hi everybody

Ying-Lan: hi

Vance: I'll tell you what. I'm planning to do this for my son

Vance: So I'll write down the steps and post them on the web site.

Ying-Lan: Yes. you are right.

Brazil: to register i know how to, but after that i dont know what do i do to start compostion my hp

Brazil: ok.. Vance..

Vance: Sorry Dodo, just finishing a conversation.

Brazil: It will help us a lot..

Ying-Lan: Michaelc will arrive later.

Brazil: why?

Ying-Lan: ^Michael will arrive later... This is his class on Sunday.

dodo: it's my first time coming here

Vance: Are you Michael's student, Dodo?

dodo: i don't know

Vance: Or are you just dropping by?

Ying-Lan: ^Where are from?

dodo: i want to join

Ying-Lan: ^hi dodo

Vance: OK, have you had a look at

Ying-Lan: ^Where are you from?

dodo: i am from china

Ying-Lan: ^China mainlane?

Vance: I'm from the USA, living in Abu Dhabi.

dodo: yes

Ying-Lan: ^China mainland?

Vance: Where on the mainland?

Ying-Lan: ^Nice to meet you. I am from Taiwan.

dodo: guangdong, southern china

dodo: nice to meet you!

Vance: "Brazil" is from ... (can you guess?)

Ying-Lan: ^Put "^" before your sentence, It will keep your ballon for a long time.

Vance: ^True, but most of us are using the chat log. Do you know how to do that?

dodo: ^thanks

dodo: no , would you tell me?

MAD: @64,64 !It's MAD

Vance: Options / Log Window

MAD: Hi...who is dodo?

Vance: Dodo is from China, Guangdong.

Vance: He's a new student.

dodo: hi, mad

Vance: Dodo, do you have a log window on now?

Ying-Lan: ^Opne /Option/ and mark toolbox , you can see the tool box window at your lefe hand. Click the log you will see our converaton record.

Ying-Lan: left hand

Ying-Lan: hi, mad

Brazil: But where do I save the log ??

MAD: Michael is late!

Vance: I usually just copy it to the buffer and paste it to a word document

Ying-Lan: ^Dodo, May I have your email address. I can sent you the userguide.

dodo: ^that's great

Brazil: and you Ying.. How do you save the log at the palace ?

Ying-Lan: Tell you now.

Vance: Dodo, do you have the log? I want to give you a url.

dodo: ^my email is

Ying-Lan: ^Open you micro words... and open the log ... copy them

MAD: Hi you know that a dodo is an extinct bird?

dodo: ^yes, i know

Brazil: What is Tippex ??

Vance: tippex?

dodo: ^but i like dodo bird

MAD: I like it too!

dodo: ^what's micro word?

Vance: Dodo, here is the url for my class:

Vance: I've got to go in a minute.

MAD: Tippex is that white stuff used for old-fashioned typewriters

Vance: microsoft word?

MAD: Hi Vance!

dodo: wait a moment please, vance, i'll write it down

Vance: Hi MAD

Vance: I'm just wrapping up a class

Vance: It finished an hour ago ... sort of

MAD: have the slot before Michael...?

Vance: I always have too much fun in these classes so I end up staying a long time.

dodo: ^are you a teacher?

MAD: I know...I do the same...

Vance: Yeah, I get the students in the mood, and then Michael comes on ...

MAD: Yes, dodo I am.

Brazil: Vance did you like the joke ?/

Vance: About the whiteout? I was wondering what that stuff was on my screen.

MAD: Hey...get your kicks where you can Vance...

dodo: nice to meet you

Brazil: LOL

Vance: MAD and I are teachers, Dodo

Michael C: @64,64 !It's Michael C

Brazil: brb

MAD: Nice to meet you too Dodo...


MAD: Hi Michael...what took you so long!

dodo: hi, michael , iam a new student

Michael C: My God it's busy!

Michael C: Hello everyone!

Brazil: Hi Michael

Michael C: Wecome Dodo.

dodo: thank you

Vance: Hi. If you want to know what went on before you got here ...

Ying-Lan: ho

Michael C: Yes please Vance...

MAD: Vance has prepped then and then will promptly leave...:-)

Vance: I've started posting the logs on my web page for the students who didn't make it

Brazil: Hi Michael

Michael C: Good idea.

Vance: Anybody object to that?

MAD: Not me!

Ying-Lan: hi

dodo: no, i don't know how

Ying-Lan: hi everyone

Michael C: Did I miss anything else?

Brazil: Mad, give the rabbit avatar...

MAD: This one?

Brazil: yes

Michael C: Settle down MAD.

Ying-Lan: ^dodo, Could you mind to open your mail box... I just sent you the user guide.

dodo: hi, mad, it's very interesting

dodo: thanks very much,

Brazil: thanks Mad

MAD: Sorry Michael...

Brazil: Ying.. Send it to me too pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

MAD: welcome Felix...

Michael C: I don't beleve this. lasr week there was NO ONE here!

Ying-Lan: what

MAD: Well, maybe it was an off week Michael...

Brazil: i was here Michael....

Ying-Lan: I am sleeping sun.

Ying-Lan: vance, are you here?

Vance: It's too much for me. I've got go. I'm still at work aaaarrrggggh

Michael C: Well apart from swapping avatars I suggest we try some new IDIOMS. Any objections? (Yes - Brazil. I remember you came late.)

Brazil: Mad where are the rest of the ears ??/

Ying-Lan: see you

MAD: ears?

Brazil: i would love to talk about idioms...

Ying-Lan: idoms

Brazil: yes MAd... See my avatar it;s not complete

MAD: ok...I'm all ears is one.

Michael C: ^ 1) OK. So let's not *beat around the bush*!

Ying-Lan: you eye is stable.

dodo: what does it mean

Ying-Lan: "Bean around the brush"

Ying-Lan: ^"Beat around the brush"

Vance: Anyone else want a beer?

Michael C: Anyone like to guess what it means? (Not MAD or Vance!) Beat around the bush.

MAD: Hmmm, a beer would be nice...

Brazil: the beat around the bush means to avoid answering a question...

MAD: Thanks Vance...

Brazil: Thanks... It's so hot here...

Michael C: That's pretty clsoe Brazil....

Michael C: If I say "stop beating around the bush" I am asking someone to get to the point.

MAD: my lips are sealed...

Ying-Lan: ^I have no idea... I think about a light punishment.

Vance: Guys, I/ve gotta run. Bye everyone.

MAD: with foam...

Michael C: Bye Vance.

dodo: bye

MAD: bye Vance!!

Ying-Lan: ^To get to the point" Bye Vance. See you next sunday?

Vance: OK, I'm just grabbing a copy of the log ...

Michael C: ^If someone is beating around the bush they are not getting to the point.

Ying-Lan: ^What does "To get the point" mean?

dodo: oh, i see

Vance: whew, long log .. bye

Brazil: ..

Michael C: ^get to the point is probably another idiom!

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