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Chat with MAD, Michael, Bahia, Ying Lan, Alex, Scott, and Vance

January 24, 1999

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*** Welcome to The Virtual School House Vance!

Vance: @64,64 !It's Vance

Maggi: @64,64 !It's Maggi

Maggi: someone is pushing up daisies...:-)

Vance: Hi. I'm still in a meeting. This is my way of lurking.

Maggi: oh...novel idea!

Maggi: Just popped in because I see Michael on ICQ...

Vance: ( ... lurk ... )

Vance: lrk ... lrk ..

Maggi: meeting is draggin huh?

Vance: really!

Vance: I'll pay more attention here if students show up. I think it's coming to a close.

Maggi: have a coughing fit and excuse yourself to get something to drink...

Vance: It's an informal meeting ...

Vance: Since it's informal, it's a long breakup ...

Maggi: How long does it take to say goodbye...:-)

Vance: The meeting is kind of over, but all the principles are still in the room.

Vance: I've got another student, Bubu, on ICQ. He's not able to get to the palace from the computer he's at now.

Maggi: And you can just sit there tapping at your laptop...?

Vance: Yeah, it was a debriefing, so I was basically listening. As long as I look up now and then ...

Maggi: Where is Bubu from?

Vance: Tapping at computers is my job here.

Vance: He's in Hungary. What's that big lake there? He's from around there.

Ying-Lan: @64,64 !It's Ying-Lan

Maggi: Name has just slipped my mind, but I know it....

Maggi: Hi Ying!

Ying-Lan: hi]

Ying-Lan: hi

Ying-Lan: Vance, are you here?

Ying-Lan: maggi

Vance: Hi Ying Lan.

Vance: Right here. You came just in time. I just left a meeting.

Ying-Lan: Are you all right?

Ying-Lan: ^Keep silence?

Maggi: He is busy saying goodbye to everyone...

Vance: Me? Yeah, there's a crowd of people in my office.

Ying-Lan: Say good bye to whom?

Vance: I'm at work. Everyone is leaving, but there's a discussing dragging on here.

Ying-Lan: ^Maggi, What does "dragging" mean?

Vance: If you pull something on the ground, something heavy, you drag it.

Vance: When a meeting drags, it moves slowly, heavily.

Ying-Lan: I see.

Vance: My meeting is dragging on, not ending.

Vance: Hi Alexander. Alex is one of our new students. Glad you could make it.

Ying-Lan: But why can you come here to talk to us?

Vance: I can multi-task!

Ying-Lan: ^The meeting is still going on...

Vance: Yeah, but the topic doesn't concern me 100%

Ying-Lan: ^You are so great.

Ying-Lan: ^By the way, I could not update my homepage. I don't understand how to do.

Vance: We can do it now. Alexander, have you seen Ying lan's homepage?

Ying-Lan: ^Thanks .

Vance: YL, what's the url for your homepage?

Ying-Lan: ^Vance, you did not point these mistakes of my homepage.

Alexander Ievlev: Hi, everyone!

Ying-Lan: YOu are so busy

Vance: We can look at it now.

Ying-Lan: I understand it.

Ying-Lan: o.k.

alex: @64,64 !It's alex

Maggi: Hi Alex...did you send me a postcard from Russia online?

Ying-Lan: ^There are too alex.

Vance: Hi Alex. Alex is another Russian, planning to move to Canada.

alex: hi all,yes Maggi

Ying-Lan: one is leaving.

Vance: We lost one Alexander.

alex: i'm glad to see you all

Vance: Glad to see you. We were just about to visit Ying Lan's web page.

Maggi: Thank you Alex...:-) It was very nice of you!

Ying-Lan: nice to see you

alex: you are welcom Maggi

Vance: Alex has just ICQ'd me that he is Alexander.

Ying-Lan: ^Where is he?

Ying-Lan: ^there are five people in this room.

Vance: Alexander and Alex are the same person.

alex: alexander is name of my father

Ying-Lan: but only four.

Vance: I thought Alex was a nickname.

Ying-Lan: I see.

Ying-Lan: My Isp is busy line now.

Ying-Lan: I could not use my IE>

alex: my full name is alexey by russien

Vance: Alex, Ying Lan has been working on her web page. She's having trouble uploading files to it. Do you want to have a look at her page?

alex: yes i 'll see

Vance: I'm looking for the url.

Ying-Lan: how to update ?


Ying-Lan: ^hi, maggi. are you here>

Maggi: yes...I am...

Ying-Lan: ^Have you been on my homepage?

Vance: I'm on your homepage now.

Ying-Lan: great!

Ying-Lan: suggestion?

Ying-Lan: comment?

Vance: Now, you have some new files and you want to put them up to your homepage?

Ying-Lan: ^No, I jsut wanted to add advice. "To use Chinese character set"

Vance: Comment: I think your home page is great. I thought your story about the kindness of the people in Nordkap was very readable.

Ying-Lan: ^I could not update the index.html

Vance: Anyone else at

Vance: Why could you not send a file up? What happened when you tried?

Ying-Lan: I did it as usual.. but failed it. I can not change it.

Ying-Lan: ^I resave the index.html in my computer. Then I upload the index.html.

Ying-Lan: ^But I can not update this index.html.

scott: @64,64 !It's scott

Ying-Lan: hi, scott.

Maggi: Hi Scott...

scott: hi all

Ying-Lan: long time no see.

Vance: OK, do you have the new file on your computer right now?

alex: hi scott

Vance: Hi Scott.

Ying-Lan: Yes. I have.

Ying-Lan: You want me to try now.

Maggi: Ying is busy with is the weather in Taiwan Scott?

Vance: OK, can you log on to your account at Geocities?

Ying-Lan: ^I try it now.

alex: hi Alexander

alex: where are you from?

Maggi: Are there really two Alex's here?

Vance: Now we have two Alex's again

Vance: Ying Lan is trying to upload a file to her web page.

Vance: She started a web page for this class.

Vance: If anyone here wants to start a web page, we can do it now.

Vance: This class is to help the students in any way they like.

Vance: If you want to come and chat, that's fine.

Vance: If you want to practice writing, a good way is to start a web page.

Maggi: Scott, do you have one?

Vance: So, Maggi and I can help you do that.

scott: what

Maggi: a web page?

scott: no

Vance: Everyone in this class has a web page.

scott: in ICQ have one

Vance: Alex's web page is at

Vance: Have you seen that one Alex?

alexey: of couse

Vance: So you can add to that one, or you can start your own.

alexey: i'll try to do it

Vance: Scott, are you a student with the EFI?

scott: no

Vance: You are welcome in any case. Do you want to be a student?

Maggi: He tried...but hasn't come in yet I think...

scott: yes but how

Vance: To join my class, you can visit our url.

Vance: If you like the concept, you can send email, and you're in.

scott: ok tell me how

Vance: Well, just by being here, you are in, except we don't know who you are.

Vance: So, visit and follow the instructions.

Ying-Lan: I am coming.

Ying-Lan: ^I could not update my file again.

scott: ok my name is ScottChen from Taiwan

Vance: OK, what is your email address, and I'll send you a welcome message.


Vance: Ying Lan, are you able to log in to the file manager?

Ying-Lan: ^hi, scott.

Ying-Lan: Have you been on my homepage.

scott: hi

Ying-Lan: ^Vance, I used the EZ File upload.

Vance: Ying Lan has her web page at Geocities.

Vance: Ok, so you were in the place where you saw which files were there? Are you there now?

Ying-Lan: Where?

Vance: YL is trying to send a new file up to her web space but she's having trouble.

Ying-Lan: ^I upload the file ... It is the same when I did it.

Vance: I mean, are you at the place where you can see the list of all your files?

Vance: And can you see the date on Index.html?

Ying-Lan: ^I could see them.

Ying-Lan: ^Yes, I could.

Vance: What is the date on Index.html?

Vance: YL is using the File Manager to upload a new file into her Geocities web space.

Vance: Does anyone else want to visit Geocities and start a web site?

Vance: Maggi and Ying Lan did that in this class a few weeks ago.

Vance: Did you ever upload to your site Maggi?

Maggi: In the process Vance..l.

Ying-Lan: ^It is Jan. 03

Vance: OK, so your new file definitely did not get up there.

Ying-Lan: ^Yes. I think so.

Vance: So when you go to EZ Upload, do you browse for the new file on your computer?

Ying-Lan: ^I don't know why.. I did the same way.

Ying-Lan: Yes. I did.

Vance: YL is trying to upload the new Index.html to replace the Jan 3rd version.

Vance: Usually it's pretty easy.

Vance: It sounds like she's doing it right, but there's a problem somewhere.

Vance: Try it again and tell me what's happening step by step.

Michael C: @64,64 !It's Michael C

Ying-Lan: ^Do you think geocicities change somthing.

Vance: Now we have as many teachers here as students.

Maggi: Hi Michael!

Michael C: Hi everyone.

alex: hi Michael

Maggi: Good thing for the students...

scott: Hi Michael!

Hi Michael!


Vance: YL, browse for the file now.

Vance: Hi MC

Ying-Lan: ^I used the EZ file upload and borwse... put my file name in the coloum... , then press upload file...

Maggi: So, still haven't told me what the weather is like in Taiwan...

Maggi: MC...saves time typing...good idea Vance...

Vance: OK, wait a minute YL. Let me get tthere.

alex: where are you from Mc?

Michael C: I'm in Australia Scott.

Ying-Lan: ^maggi, It was rainny this morning. but it was sunny this afternoon.

Michael C: Sorry - Alex.

scott: I see michael

Maggi: temperature Scott?

Ying-Lan: ^It was good weather today.

alex: are you a teacher too?

Maggi: He sure is!

Ying-Lan: ^above 20 degree.

Michael C: Yes. I'm another teacher!

Maggi: That's pretty warm for this time of year, isn't it Scott?

scott: is winter

Ying-Lan: ^It was warm today in Taiwan.

Ying-Lan: ^It is winter.. but it was warm today.

scott: but not cold about 23 C

alex: what about your wether,Mad?

Ying-Lan: ^It is very cold last week.

Ying-Lan: ^It was very cold last week.

Maggi: 23 is not winter...! Here it is only 0 C...that's winter...

Vance: OK, YL, when you browse for a file, the file name comes next to the Browse button in the EZ upload interface?

Maggi: Hey about in Russia?

alex: -10 c

Maggi: :-(

Michael C: In Adelaide today - 30 degrees!

alex: it's warm for this moment

Vance: In Abu Dhabi it's about 20-25 degrees out.

Maggi: plus MC...not minus!

Ying-Lan: ^Yes.

Vance: And is the name of the file index.html ??

Maggi: ok...just wait until you have winter MC and it is summer here!

Michael C: Yes - plus. We never get minus temperatures here.

Michael C: Not even in winter.

Ying-Lan: ^C:\yinglan\index.html .. like this.

Vance: Looks right ...

Ying-Lan: ^Then, I pressed the upload file.

Maggi: Absolutely never?

Vance: And then you press Upload File. When you do that, what does it say at the bottom of the browser?

Michael C: Where I live - never!

Maggi: Lucky you...

scott: sorry I have to go. bye

Michael C: Yep!

Maggi: Bye Scott...come are getting better each time!

Vance: OK Scottt. If you want to join the class, just look at the webheads page and send me an email to

Ying-Lan: ^it was going to work.... then go to the next page where I jsut keyyed in my name and passwords.

Michael C: I've lived in Europe and I know what it's like. You can have it. (Bye Scott.)

alex: we often have cristmass frost in this moment about -30 c,but not in this years,all people smile,becous we had rain during a week

Maggi: Yes, but look at the skin we have here...:-)

Vance: At the bottom of the browser, did it say it was contacting Geocities?

Michael C: Yes that's true Maggi. All European women are beautiful!

Maggi: It has been milder than normal here too Alex..

Vance: If you want to join us Scott, send us an introduction, a picture if you feel like it. Don't forget the weather report.

Maggi: So, there is something to say for mist weather....!

scott: Vance I will see the web and send you the email

Felix: @64,64 !It's Felix

Ying-Lan: ^... It seems.... find new web site.. please wait....

Michael C: Hi Felix.

Maggi: Good Scott...we look forward to it...

alex: hi Felix

Maggi: Hi there Felix...!

Vance: Hi Felix

Felix: Good day all

Ying-Lan: Hi, Felix

Vance: gooday, mate.

Michael C: How's the new father?

Ying-Lan: ^Do you think I have to accept these cookies?

Felix: He is ok... perfectly health... haha

Vance: I don't usually get cookies, but maybe it will help.

alex: did you change your icq number?

Michael C: Good to hear.

Felix: me alex ?

alex: felix?

Ying-Lan: ^Could you update your file... at the same way?

Vance: In the same way? What do you mean?

Ying-Lan: ^Do you resend your file now?

Vance: hmm, you might try that.

Vance: Does is say, repost from data?

Ying-Lan: ^I just thought there are something was change.

Felix: What are you talking about ?

alex: it's for you ,felix question

Michael C: Vance and YL are obviously very busy!

Ying-Lan: ^I mean Geocities change their method.

Vance: We're trying to help YL update her web page. She's having some trouble.

Ying-Lan: Sorry, I just want to upload my file of geocities.

Felix: oh ok

Michael C: It's OK.

Ying-Lan: ^I could not upload my file.

Felix: Maggi was helen here eariler?

Maggi: Not yet Felix...ö

Michael C: Felix - thanks for all your fantastic assignments.

Michael C: Felix's listening skills are EXCELLENT.


 Michael C: Well I think so!

Maggi: Felix can never get enough praise...:-)

Maggi: He wants to be perfect...

Felix: LOL@Maggi...

Michael C: Oh! Is that right Felix?

Maggi: forget it Felix...

alex: what do you think about crisis in Brazil,felix?

Michael C: Perfection is impossible.

Ying-Lan: ^brb

Felix: It's making our life goes upside down

Vance: Hey, YL is sending me her file and I'm going to try to upload it from here.

Felix: Michael did you receive an E-mail about more "american assignments "..

Michael C: No Felix I didn't.....

Felix: I asked for that because it's the kind of English I study..

Michael C: Then maybe you should ask an American!

Felix: I didnt want to offend you Michael..

Michael C: I'm not offended!

Ying-Lan: I think is too big.

Felix: Once more I put the foot in my mouth.. Shit!!

Michael C: I'll keep it in mind...but I think 2 of my assignments are with Amercain voices.

Felix: Yes they are Michael... It's hard for me to understand another accent... Like a British...

Michael C: Maybe I could use your voice MAD?

Maggi: Sure...

Maggi: but it is not typically American...

Michael C: If I send you a text you could read it for me and send it back via Pure Voice.

Maggi: but I can do different accents...

Maggi: yes...

Michael C: OK. I might try that.

Vance: I'm getting the second file now, YL

Felix: Michael, I want to ask you another question..

Michael C: Yes?

Felix: How can I join your Speaking Course ?

Felix: Alex I changed my icq number... I am Ricardo in Icq

Michael C: I don't have a speaking course.

Felix: uh?

Maggi: Dave said you and Begum have the couse...

Maggi: course...

Michael C: What course?

Michael C: A speaking course?

Maggi: speaking and listening...

Michael C: It's really only listening.

Ying-Lan: ^Felix, What is the videoconference register progam?

Maggi: Oh...

Felix: i program similar to iphone, netmeeting...

Ying-Lan: It is easy to use?

Felix: yes, very very easy

Michael C: The only way we could do speaking is with iphone, Netmeeting or similar. And I find they are all too unreliable.

Felix: I sent it to Michael and Maggi also..

Michael C: Easy to use - what is?

Ying-Lan: ^I don

alex: felix,i had sometimes letters in icq but i didn't know who wrote it,i think may be you

Ying-Lan: ^I don

Felix: check the info Alex and see they were from Ricardo

Michael C: I must check with Begum and see what she's doing about a speaking course.

Felix: oh ok Michael.

Vance: OK, YL, now try it. It seems to have worked.

Maggi: That's what Dave told me yesterday when I asked him.

Michael C: Felix - you think iphone is better than Netmeeting right?

Felix: yesm much better

Michael C: But iPhone is not free?

Ying-Lan: Why coud you do... but lost the notel.bmp

Ying-Lan: ^But lost the notel.bmp

Felix: nope. But I use the 4.5 version and everytime it expires I go to Panel Control, remove it and install it again.. and It works.. hehe

Michael C: I'll report you to iPhone...

Michael C: Maybe I'll try that too.

Michael C: But the problem with these programs is that you can't rely on making contact with people every time.

Felix: Report ??

Michael C: Yes - I'll tell them you're cheating.

Felix: In Iphone we can call using the ip... The really dont need to connected to any of iphone directory

Felix: Thanks a lot Michael

alex: where did you take this version, it possible to have in internet?

Vance: Yeah, YL, I'm looking into that now. I'm having trouble with your file because I need chinese character support to view it in Word.

Felix: Are you serious Michael ??

Ying-Lan: I am sorry.

Vance: Hang on ...

Ying-Lan: I am sorry...

Michael C: Sure. You can't trust me. I'm one of those sneaky people on the net you try and hide your identity from!

Maggi: yeah, right Michael!

Felix: uh???

Michael C: Do I have you worried Felix?

Maggi: he's pulling your leg Felix...

alex: can i find free internetphone programm in net?

Maggi: you're making him sweat Michael...

Felix: Which Leg ??? The middle one ??

Ying-Lan: ^ what

Ying-Lan: leg?

Felix: Only Netmeeting Alex

Maggi: Felix...!

Michael C: Felix should be expelled for that last comment.

alex: thak you

Felix: Sorry Maggi, I couldn't resist.

Vance: I think I know what the problem is. What Browser are you using, YL?

Felix: what is expelled ??

Ying-Lan: I.E.

Ying-Lan: ^I.E.

Maggi: kicked out...

Felix: Oh !!!!!!!

Michael C: Dave would pin you in the corner!

Ying-Lan: ^is it wrong?

Maggi: Or worse...

Vance: No, no problem ..

Felix: But he's not here.. PHEW!!!!!!

Michael C: ...but I've forgotten how to do it!

Maggi: lucky for you...

Maggi: I haven't ...hehehe

Vance: I'm just going back into your file manager.

Michael C: Be my guest Maggi.

Maggi: I am not in wizard mode...

Michael C: No - you don't look like it.

Michael C: Do you think Vance and YL are having fun?

Ying-Lan: ^I don

Maggi: no...I am too relaxed to bother with it...

Ying-Lan: ^I don't think it is fun.

Michael C: Looks like Felix pinned himself.

Felix: I don't know.. But I am...

Maggi: they are getting frustrated more likely...

Felix: what is pin ??

Maggi: tied up..

Ying-Lan: ^You are absolute right. maggi.

Michael C: Held down.

Maggi: stuck somewhere...

Vance: Yeah, I'm having fun. This is what I like to do.

Michael C: So you can't move.

Ying-Lan: ^I am getting ... frustartaed...

Felix: *Flaterring time* Michael you are a great person.. hehe

Michael C: Yeh right Felix.

Maggi: let Vance do it Ying...

Ying-Lan: I see.

Maggi: He means it Michael...

Ying-Lan: ^I am very sleepy nwo.

Ying-Lan: now

Maggi: time for bed then?

Michael C: I'm glad you're enjoying it Vance. I'm being flippant down here.

Felix: Michael when do I get more assignments ?

Maggi: There's your revenge Michael...

Ying-Lan: ^Your assignment?

Felix: flippant??

Michael C: When I create more....

Maggi: cheeky is flippant...

Maggi: ...making offhand remarks...

Maggi: being silly...

Ying-Lan: ^What is your assignment?

Vance: You have this statement in your source file: img src="note1.jpg" width="620" height="138" alt="note1.bmp (256734 bytes)"></p

Michael C: Watch it Maggi.

Maggi: Watch what...? *she asks innocently*

Ying-Lan: You mean it is wrong.

Felix: LOL

Vance: This means, display note1.jpg, alternatively note1.bmp

Vance: I think you sent me note1.bmp, didn't you? Do you have note1.jpg?

Michael C: OK Felix. I think that's enough punishment. You can untie yourself now.

Ying-Lan: ^I have to sent the notel.jpg not notel.bmp.

Vance: Yeah, send that one.

Ying-Lan: I have notel.jpg. wait.

Vance: You see? We're having fun ...

Michael C: Are you listening to all this nonsense Alex?

alex: yes

Maggi: Alex is very quiet...

Michael C: Just checking Alex!

Felix: gibberish is a better word Michael..

Maggi: maybe he is cold...

Ying-Lan: ^Vance, I am sending you the notel.jpg by icq now.

Michael C: You may speak gibberish Felix. I don't!

Ying-Lan: ^it is dong.

Maggi: so what is everyone going to do about the year 2000 problem...

Ying-Lan: ^It is done.

Maggi: have you thought about it?

Ying-Lan: I have no idea about y2K.

alex: i try to understand everything

Michael C: Yes - but not much......

Felix: i really dont want to think about it

Michael C: I'm like you Felix.

Maggi: what happens when you have no water or electricity...?

Ying-Lan: ^I don't think my computer has the Y2K problem.

Ying-Lan: ^I am worry about the computer of my goverment. Their computer is too old.

Michael C: What's going to happen to my water and electricty?

Maggi: maybe not yours Ying...but others might...

Michael C: Our government says they have the problem under control.

Maggi: Maybe there won't be any temporarily...

Maggi: do you believe them Michael?

Michael C: Yes.

Ying-Lan: ^Do you think it is a big problem in the world?

Michael C: Or maybe I just hope.

alex: i know that some of computers which sold in 1998 have this problem

Maggi: good...the treasury in the US is printing an extra $50 billion in cash...

Ying-Lan: ^Computer sold in 1998 ?

Maggi: Bad news...

Felix: i bought mine in 1998

Michael C: Is it really going to cause big problems? Perhaps the problem is being exaggerated?

Ying-Lan: ^It is new..

Maggi: you can test your own easily...

Michael C: How Maggi?

Maggi: but with no electricity you won't have to worry about it...:-)

alex: some people think that this problem cost for world 3 600 000 000 000$

Maggi: I'll send you the instructions...easy to do...and if it doesn't work there is a download for free that will correct it.

Ying-Lan: ^Destroy...

Vance: OK, it works now.

Michael C: It WILL cost a lot. Even now people all over the world are being paid A LOT of money to work on this problem.

Felix: Michael how can I record file using real player ?

Maggi: Well, the French are worried there won't be any champagne left by November.

Michael C: It will do the French good to go without a drink for a while.

Ying-Lan: ^Vance, do you think it is better than the old one?

Maggi: Like one of my computer geeks said...99.9% of the systems could work...only takes that 0.01% to screw up the whole works...

Felix: michael ?

Michael C: Felix - I'm still using the old Real Audio Encoder.

Felix: So, where you record your files first ?

Maggi: The French go without drinking!?!

Michael C: If I want to record my voice I record it as a .wav file then convert it to Real Audio.

Maggi: Heaven forbid...

Maggi: Oh,,,

Maggi: is that how y

Maggi: you do it...?

Felix: That's what I do also.. But I wondered if there another way to record it directly as a realplayer file

Ying-Lan: ^I have to go now.

Ying-Lan: I am so sleey...

Maggi: bye then Ying...sleep swetly...:-)

Maggi: sweetly...

alex: americans are giving to russien money ,becous they don't want russien rockets will fly,but russien don't worry about Y2K at all

Maggi: sorry...:-)

Ying-Lan: ^Tell me your idea by email o.k.? Vance. thanks maggi.

Felix: Hey Vance I loved the idea about the pics.

Vance: Who's leaving, I was just on the phone.

Michael C: Goldwave is an excellent freeware program for recording longer .wav files.

Maggi: I know Alex...I read the Russian are doing NOTHING with their nuclear reactors.

Maggi: They are just going to wait.

Vance: Are you going YL?

Maggi: And see what happens...

Ying-Lan: ^Vance. I am. I am so sleepy.

Maggi: Hmmm....

Vance: I'll email you about your files. Anyway, they are working now.

Ying-Lan: ^Thanks.

Ying-Lan: see you.

Ying-Lan: bye all

Vance: OK, bye.

Ying-Lan: bye.

Michael C: Goodnight Ying.

alex: all top managers don't hope they have their chairs before 2000 Y

Michael C: Time for me to go too.

alex: in goverment

Vance: Guys, I'm going to leave too. I've got the log of this transcipt. I'll find out what you said later.

Felix: Michael which program can I use to record a cd song to wav??

Michael C: Goodnight everyone. Use Goldwave for this Felix.

Maggi: Everyone is going...

Maggi: bye all...

alex: bye

Vance: I feel like I've accomplished something. Fixed YL's problem.

Felix: i download it and i could find how to record

Michael C: OK folks. Have a good week.

Vance: Same to you MC. See ya around.

Michael C: already have Goldwave?

Felix: are you going Michael ??

Maggi: you did Vance...

Felix: yes Michael

Maggi: good work...

Vance: Yeah, complicated explanation, but we managed it.

Michael C: I'll have a look at my copy of Goldwave abd get back to you OK?

Vance: If you've got ten minutes, I'll explain it to you ...

Felix: ok Michael.. thanks a lot

Vance: (don't get me started ...)

Michael C: OK - I'm really going now! Bye.

Vance: BYE

alex: bye

Felix: Bye Michael

Vance: (Is he gone yet?)

Maggi: bye Michael...

Felix: Are you going also Vance ?

Maggi: now he is...

Vance: Yeah, I've got to go home. Family's waiting.

Vance: Happy hour time.

Felix: oh ok Vance

Maggi: Happy hour?!

Vance: Of course. As we say, it's tough in the Gulf.

Felix: oh

Vance: I've got a view of the ocean from my 11th floor flat, and a guiness goes down a treat in such a setting.

Felix: Vance later I want more explanations about the conference ok..

Maggi: you mean happy hour in the American sense?

Felix: What Am I supposed to do/?

Vance: Yeah, I still havent' got an answer from the conference people.

Vance: Yes, in the American sense (slurp)

Maggi: Where do you get Guiness?

Vance: My proposal for the conference is to just present the webheads page.

Vance: From the liquor store

Felix: what is Guiness ??

Maggi: I love Guiness...the Irish in me...:-)

Vance: It's an Irish beer.

Felix: oh

Felix: i love beer and whiskey

Maggi: They have liquor stores?!

Vance: I think Maggi is surprised that alcohol is available in the UAE

Felix: yes she is Vance

Vance: They have liquor stores in Bahrain, UAE, Oman ...

Maggi: I know people have it in there homes...must be like Salt Lake City...

Vance: Not in Saudi or Qatar .. black market in Yemen ...

Maggi: their homes...

Vance: When I lived in Saudi, we brewed our own.

Felix: culture is so interesting uh??

Maggi: In your bathtub Vance...?

Vance: Yeah, what's the happy hour drink in Brazil. I forget its name.

Felix: there's no name Vance

alex: we have 10 liquor stores per 1 sq km :0)

Felix: We call Happy Hour also (a think)

Felix: i think

Vance: Starts with a C I think. It's a liquor, very strong, uniquely Brazilian ..

Felix: h ok

Felix: Cachaça

Maggi: well...Alex...I was in Russia once and learned the hard way.

Vance: THAT's IT!

Felix: But it's very strong and very very cheap

Vance: I love that stuff.

alex: ))

Felix: Cachaça ???

Vance: Yeah, in the punch you guys make with it.

Maggi: it's blue isn't it Felix?

Felix: I don't think it pure.... I use fruits in it

Felix: No Maggi.. It's as incolor as water

Vance: And in Russia, I used to drink Vodka with a red, sweet liquid. What was that?

Felix: I dont like it pure.. I use fruits in it..

Maggi: Cassis maybe?

alex: Mag there are much more liquor stores now and when you were

Felix: But cachaça is a hmmmmm poor beverage.. So cheap.. A bottles costs about 1.50 - 2.00 dollars

Maggi: I was there in '73...probably not Alex...

Felix: in 73 i was only a year old..

Maggi: so cheap Felix...not here!

Vance: I was in Russia in '73 too.

Vance: Amazing.

Maggi: LOL

Felix: Maybe you two met in a corner.. LOL

Maggi: where Vance?

Felix: drunk I mean...

Felix: LOL

Vance: From Helsinki to L'grad to Moscow to Warsaw

Maggi: Felix...

Felix: what Maggi ?

alex: we have 0,5 l of vodka for 0,5 $,so the chipiest food for russien

Maggi: I went from Helsinki to Leningrad too!

Vance: Maybe we were on the same train!

Felix: Here it's the same alex.. Poor people use cachaça as food..

Maggi: I went on a boat...

Vance: I went by train. The train was packed but they had me in a compartment all by myself.

Felix: Maggi's life was full of excitment

Maggi: I am old enough to be your mother Felix....

Maggi: what a thought :-!!!!!!!!!!

Vance: But are you BAD enough??

Maggi: Me or Felix?

alex: in 70 years we had only shops in the streets ,but now we have stalls in10 times more

Felix: LOL@Vance

alex: and each with vodka )

Vance: Yeah, my impression of Russia was featureless streets, but the Russians were friendly and wanted to meet Americans.

Felix: I love Vodka with fruit and condensed milk

Maggi: On the ship was a team of pole vaulters from the US...and I was the only female on board in their age group...:-)

alex: and now we same

Vance: the mind boggles ...

Maggi: eeeeeeeeee...Felix...

Vance: It's fun to drink with Russians!

Maggi: juk!

Felix: what Maggi ?

Maggi: Well, that's for sure!! Agree with you there Vance...

alex: only communists don't like americans but common people like foriners

Maggi: putting milk and vodka together...juk!

Maggi: foreigners Alex...

Vance: I doubt if I met many communists. I met a lot of common people.

Maggi: Me too...

Maggi: and I brought lots of gum and magazines...:-)

Maggi: nylons for the women...

alex: sorry,but i 'm glad that you understand))

Felix: not milk but condensed

Maggi: we all have a lot in common when we look for it...:-)

Maggi: any kind of milk sounds bad Felix...

Maggi: I got sick once on Black Russians...

Felix: no Maggi,.,. It;'s delicious

Vance: I think problems are caused by people who go out of their way to look for differences.

Maggi: sure Vance...and we should be looking for the things that we hold in common.

Maggi: and rejoice in the differences...

Vance: I think I'm getting ready to go. I'm shutting off my office computer now.

Felix: ok Vance bye

Felix: I am going too.. See you all around bye

alex: glad to see you Vance

Vance: OK. Nice to see you again Alex.

Maggi: I can go get something done now...

alex: bye felix

Maggi: Nice to see you all...:-)

Vance: Send us some more information about yourself and 'll put it on your web page.

Maggi: Felix left fast...

Vance: You can tell us where you work, where you live, what it's like in Russia these days.

Maggi: Great it Alex..

Vance: You too Maggi. We're all waiting for your web page to go up.

Vance: Must set a good example.

alex: ok

Maggi: People need to hear about it from the normal person, not the media.

Maggi: I know...

Maggi: sorry Vance...

Vance: Just joking.

Maggi: no, you're right...

Vance: Anyway, making a web page is fun.

Vance: It's expressive, creative ..

Maggi: just needs time...

Maggi: the rest is a breeze for me...:-)

Vance: Well, start by just writing something in MS WOrd and saving it as html.

Vance: Then upload it to your web site.

Maggi: hopefully it works in word 6.0

Vance: Can you save at html? Or you could use communicator. Or Geocities has a web authoring tool.

Maggi: If not I have 7.0 on the laptop and can transer it to this computer.

Maggi: Or do what you just said.

Vance: You can write you files in word 6 and convert them in word 7.

Maggi: well...first I have to eat something...

Vance: Anyway, it's simple. What about you Alex. Do you use word?

alex: saldom

Maggi: I took the daisy...:-)

Vance: Well, if you email me, I can post your writing to my web page for the time being.

Vance: The daisy??

alex: exell acsess vbasik

Maggi: I took the daisy...:-)

Vance: If you write in Word you can Save As html.

Maggi: the flower in the corner

(She took the daisy graphic that someone had left behind from a previous session at the Palace)

alex: i can do it

Maggi: maybe you call it Margarita...

Vance: Oh, we'll have to put up a sign about picking flowers for people like you ..

Maggi: I am a romantic at heart...

Vance: I'm sure there are plenty more.

Maggi: give me a break...:-)

(Alex has produced a bunch of flowers and passed them to Maggi - Vance has taken several more daisies from his suitcase and placed them at the Schoolhouse - Maggi takes one)

Vance: That was nice Alex.

Vance: OK, I'll see you guys later.

Maggi: Red roses...thank you!

Vance: bye

Maggi: I love flowers ... bye Vance<!

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Vance later followed up with this email to Ying Lan:

So, why weren't you able to upload your files the other day? I don't know why you were not able to put an index.html file dated Jan 24 up there to replace the one dated Jan 03. That should have worked, as it did for me when I went on with your password. Are you behind any kind of firewall? Do you use a proxy address in your browser? If so, this might be the reason. Otherwise, maybe it was just a difficulty in connection that day between Taiwan and Geocities.

The reason I was asking what browser you used is because if you used Netscape I could help you clear the cache. Sometimes this is the reason you can't see that you've successfully uploaded a file to Geocities. When you ask your browser to go to Geocities and get your index file, it looks in its own cache to see if it has one there already. Then it's supposed to check the date on what it has against the date against the file it's about to download. If the one at the site is the same date as the one in the cache, it gives you the one from its cache. This happens quickly, whereas a download from the site would take time. But sometimes, if you've just uploaded a file, your browser gives you the one from its cache anyway. So sometimes you have to clear the disk cache before viewing. After you've done that, you then get the file from the site, not from cache.

If you don't know about this, it confuses you, because you upload your file, try to view it, and always see the old version, because you're actually looking at the file from your own disk cache. You think your file didn't upload, when it did. That's why I had you check the dates on the files in your file manager at Geocities.

The other thing I noticed about your index.html, you have a line in it that reads:

</font></i><p align="center"><img src="note1.jpg" width="620" height="138" alt="note1.bmp (256734 bytes)"></p>

This tells a browser: "from the default folder, display "note1.jpg." Alternatively, display the file "note1.bmp (256734 bytes)" (I guess that's what "alt" means, though I'm not positive about that).

First of all, there is no file called "note1.bmp (256734 bytes)". The correct file name is "note1.bmp". I don't know how the file size got in there. Secondly, there WAS no "note1.jpg". This is why when we first tried it, there was no display. AFTER we uploaded the jpg file, my browser tried to load in "note1.bmp (256734 bytes)", did not succeed, and then correctly displayed "note1.jpg"

Here's what I think you should do. First, you don't need a bmp and jpg file of the same thing, so delete the large bmp file from your disk space at Geocities and change this line to read:

</font></i><p align="center"><img src="note1.jpg" width="620" height="138" </p>

In other words, delete the reference to the bmp file. Second, the width and height will be incorrect if you change the size of the jpg file but either it might not matter, or the dimensions will be corrected in the application you use when you change the large file for the smaller one.

Sorry about any frustration you're having with making your web site. My job in Abu Dhabi is to help teachers overcome frustrations with technology and make everyone feel that any problem is solvable or can at least be got around. So if I can help you I am happy to.

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