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Chat with Ying Lan, Cezar, Hilda, Felix, Brian, MAD Maggi, Michael C, and Vance

May 16, 1999


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*** Welcome to Virtual School House Vance!

Vance: @64,64 !It's Vance

Maggi: Hi :-)

Vance: Hi. I just grabbed the kitten. I'm a cat-man.

Maggi: as you can see Cezar just keeps bouncing in...

Maggi: I love cats...

Vance: Is Cezar here?

Cezar: @64,64 !It's Cezar

Vance: Ah, there he is. Cezar himself. How are you Cezar?

Maggi: Now he is...

Maggi: quiet fellow...

Maggi: meow...

Vance: grrrrr

Maggi: >>LOL

Vance: This one is ME. I'm just a pussycat.

Vance: Do you have a kitten in your briefcase, Maggi?

Maggi: I won't comment on that...:-)

Vance: If not, you could take this one.

Maggi: yes, I do...

Vance: Now, now, Maggi ...

Maggi: I put therm there

Vance: oh, did you put this other stuff here as well?

Maggi: yep

Maggi: just qa little female decorating.

Vance: Well, thanks for the kitten.

Maggi: nothing better to do

Maggi: welcome...oh look

Maggi: Cezar...can I have that?

Cezar: Maggi where i the teacher

Maggi: I am a teacher and so is Vance

Vance: Hi Cezar. We are both teachers.

Maggi: Can I have the fish?

Vance: Did you come for the class?

Cezar: Yes

Vance: Great. Welcome.

Cezar: What do you do now

Ying-Lan: @64,64 !It's Ying-Lan

Vance: Right now we wait for students. Here's Ying Lan.

Maggi: Hi Ying!

Cezar: for how long

Ying-Lan: hi

Maggi: about an hour Cezar.

Vance: And then we talk .. for about an hour or more.

Vance: Where are you from Cezar?

Cezar: Romania

Ying-Lan: ^It is more an hour

Vance: Where in Romania? I visited there a couple of years ago.

Ying-Lan: HI, Maggi... Moon can not see Sun forever... but you did it.

Cezar: I'm born in Braila but now living in Bucharest

Maggi: I did what Ying?

Vance: Naturally I've been to Bucharest. What do you do there?

Cezar: I am manager in my own company.

Ying-Lan: ^Moon and sun

Vance: What kind of company is it?

Ying-Lan: hi

Vance: Hi YL.

Cezar: Sales and distribution HP products, stationary, and all for office

Vance: Well, how did you find out about our class?

Cezar: from the efi homepage

Maggi: How did you know I put them there Ying?

Ying-Lan: ^i guee

Vance: You guessed?

Maggi: Good guess...:-)

Ying-Lan: ^I guess.... but I think I was wrong.

Vance: Good guess.

Maggi: You were right!

Ying-Lan: OhYeaaah

Vance: Cezar, have you visited the webheads homepage?

Ying-Lan: So,,, Cezar is new cyberclassmate?

Vance: You are welcome if you want to join us.

Cezar: yes I Want

Ying-Lan: ^You are welcom....

Vance: The most official way to join is to join the eclass. Do you know how to do that?

Ying-Lan: ^Waaaa , you are a manager.

Cezar: no

Vance: Easy. Just send blank email to

Cezar: I will send now

Ying-Lan: I am sorry

Vance: Our website is at

Vance: At the website you can see photos of the people you are talking to right now.

Vance: Let me know when you've sent the email and I'll check the egroups list of students.

Cezar: now

Vance: BTW, have you guys checked

Maggi: I have...

Maggi: finally

Vance: The egroups has lots of interesting features.

Vance: It archives all our email for one thing (an archive is a collection of documents).

Vance: You can see every link that anyone has recommended on the list.

Vance: ... and click on it.

Vance: You can chat there too.

Vance: (wonders why it's so quiet) Still there?

Ying-Lan: I am here.

Vance: Maggi must be cooking spaghetti.

Vance: So what have you been up to, YL? Are you recovered from your illness?

Maggi: Nope...had to use the facilities...

Ying-Lan: ^I bought it through curiosity.= I I bought it out of curiosity.

Vance: I bought it out of curiosity is the correct form

Ying-Lan: ^"throught" is wrong?

Vance: Iwouldn't say it is "wrong", just less common.

Ying-Lan: all right

Ying-Lan: another one.

Vance: We could look up curiosity in the concordancer and see which word is most used before it.

Ying-Lan: ^To go by the hill road.... , to go along the hill road.

Vance: Welcome, Cezar Pseneac, to the eclass. You are a fully registered member.

Cezar: thank you

Vance: I'd say "go along". Go by car.

Vance: Thank you. The next step is to say hi to your classmates. You can send a note to introduce yourself to

Maggi: I'm here...jusdt listening...

Ying-Lan: ^Do you say "It will soon disappear from sight." or "It will soon disappear."?

Vance: Either sounds ok, but my old English teacher always wanted me to use expressions that were concise. So the 2nd might be better.

Vance: "Concise" means short and to the point. "From site" is redundant (extra and unnecessary).

Vance: Cezar, when you send mail to the eclass, everyone in the class gets it. There are 21 students and 3 teachers.

Ying-Lan: ^It is better one "He is often absent." not "He is often absent from sight."

Vance: The first, just "absent". I've sometimes heard "disappear from sight" but I've never heard "absent from site." Have you Maggi?

Ying-Lan: ^I think so.

Ying-Lan: ^Sorry...

Vance: Do you mean, "I thought so"?

Cezar: I sent the message

Maggi: Nope, I haven't.

Ying-Lan: ^I just read the book talking about "To speak English in English thought'' but it written by a Chinese.

Vance: I'll check my email.

Cezar: )BELCH

Maggi: tsk tsk Cezar...:-)

Ying-Lan: Who.... eat too much?

Maggi: What did you eat?

Vance: OK, Cezar (you're excused) the email is there.

Cezar: Scuse me I try the sounds

Maggi: No problem...just watch who you kiss...

Cezar: who

Maggi: :-) Go ahead...give me one...

Ying-Lan: ^"He got money out of his father."="He got money from his father."?

Cezar: where are the 21 students

Maggi: money from means they gave it to him.

Vance: Either is ok, YL. The meaning is different. If you get money "out of" someone, it means he didn't want to give it to you.

Maggi: money out of means he forced it out of them

Ying-Lan: ^He got moeny out of his father, because he forced his father to give him moeny?

* Cezar * where is the 21 students

Maggi: It means, like Vance said, his father didn't really want to give it to him.

Ying-Lan: Hee.

Vance: Cezar is trying whispering now. Good. The other students are at the eclass. We get about half a dozen of them here at various times.

Ying-Lan: YOu know,,, that's why it is hard to learn another language.

Vance: Why is that, YL?

Vance: Are you on ICQ, Cezar?

Maggi: That's what makes it fun too!

Ying-Lan: ^It is hard to remember those different meaning...

* Cezar * yes

Vance: Yeah, it's that way in every language. You just have to keep practicing.

Ying-Lan: ^On other side, it is interesting..

Vance: Do you want to add us to your buddy list?

Maggi: Yep...and that's what you do here YL...

Vance: Fascinating, I think. I LOVE languages.

Maggi: you get better at it each time.

Vance: On the other hand ...

Maggi: On the other hand...

Maggi: :-)

Vance: Is there an echo in here?

Maggi: Sounds like it...

Ying-Lan: ^"But now rods can describe the sacrifice she made out of love for me, her young son." I think I understand the sentence... but I thought "made out of love".... several times... it means what?

Maggi: Go ahead pussycat...:-)

Ying-Lan: ^"But now words can describe the sacrifice she made out of love for me, her young son." I think I understand the sentence... but I thought "made out of love".... several times... it means what?

Vance: You take it, Maggi. I'm going to make a web page for Cezar.

Maggi: she did it because she loved him so much

Ying-Lan: ^"But no words can describe the sacrifice she made out of love for me, her young son." I think I understand the sentence... but I thought "made out of love".... several times... it means what?

Ying-Lan: ^"made out of love" is mean "she loved her son very much"... right?

Maggi: the sacrifice she made...out of love means because of the love she felt for him.

Maggi: I do a lot of things for my son out of love.

Ying-Lan: ^"the sacrifice she made..", and "out of love for me" is another thing.

Ying-Lan: ^"out of" means "take something off" or?

Maggi: yes...that is why you had a problem understanding it.

Maggi: out of here means because of.

Ying-Lan: ^because of? yeah... thanks , magi

Maggi: no problem...

Maggi: if you have difficulty sometimes...break the sentence down into phrases.

Ying-Lan: ^"the house stands up the river" is right?

Maggi: yes...

Maggi: means up river

Ying-Lan: up river?

Maggi: not down the river

Maggi: from where the person is standing

Ying-Lan: ^"Break the sentence down to the phrases"?

Vance: Cezar, your web page is almost on the web.

Ying-Lan: ^I did it, but I cut the sentence with the wrong phrase.

Maggi: yes...subject verb clauses

Cezar: where is

Maggi: easy to do

Vance: In a moment, it will be at

Ying-Lan: ^east to do?

Maggi: when it isn't clear try breaking it in a different place and see what happens.

Vance: I'm having a little browser problem and have had to restart.

Ying-Lan: I think... it needs to practice...

Maggi: I'll hold the fort...after a short break...brb

Vance: Ok. I'll take over. I can't seem to reach Geocities right now.

Maggi: you need to practice or it needs practice

Vance: Is that a question?

Ying-Lan: ^I need to practice how to cut the sentence...

Ying-Lan: ^It is not easy to do.. I hope so.

Vance: Yes. Many problems are better solved once you've broken them into smaller problems.

Ying-Lan: ^But If I cut the sentence with the wrong position...

Vance: Where are you getting your questions, YL?

Felix: @64,64 !It's Felix

Ying-Lan: ^Like "the ssacrifice she made our of love for me." I though... "made out of love"... not "The sacrifice she made" ... "out of love for me."

Felix: morning

Vance: Oh, here's Felix. How are you?

Ying-Lan: ^Like "the sacrifice she made our of love for me." I though... "made out of love"... not "The sacrifice she made" ... "out of love for me."

Felix: Fine and drwost

Felix: drowsy

Ying-Lan: hello!

Vance: YL, English has a habit of dropping out the relative clause and the verb "be".

Vance: Part of the trick is knowing where to put the relative pronoun and verb be BACK.

Felix: Hi Ying

Vance: So that is "the sacrifice WHICH she made WHICH WAS out of love for me.

Felix: Vance can you explain the out of in this context.. I really dont understand

Vance: ... or that she made that was out of love

Ying-Lan: ^because of

Felix: so out of is Because of?

Vance: Ying Lan couldn't understand the sentence: The sacrifice she made out of love for me.

Michael C: @64,64 !It's Michael C

Vance: She made a sacrifice. The sacrifice was out of love.

Michael C: Wow - it's busy. Hello everyone!

Cezar: hello

Ying-Lan: hello

Felix: Hi Michael

Vance: Michael C is another teacher. Felix is a student from Brazil. Cezar just joined us from Romania.

Felix: Welcome here Cezar

Cezar: thank you

Felix: But there is someone else

Michael C: Welcome Cezar. i saw your message to the Webheads group.

Cezar: I hope to learn more english

Ying-Lan: ^maggi,,, A guy kidnaped a bus just wanted to see his former girl agin in Germany yesterday?

Felix: you will cezar

Vance: A guy who kidnapped a bus?

Felix: Ying I am really impressed how your English has improved since last year.

Maggi: Hi dud!

Vance: Really, it has hasn't it.

Ying-Lan: Really?

Felix: Maggi!!!!!

Felix: Yes, A lot

Ying-Lan: Vance, you are right.

Ying-Lan: maggi,..,..

Vance: To break this down, let's leave off (who kidnapped a bus).

Vance: A guy ... just wanted to see his girlfriend.

Ying-Lan: she is busy now. I guess.

Maggi: Oh YL...haven't heard about that yet.

Maggi: ooos dude

Ying-Lan: ^I saw the news on TV

Michael C: The real Felix!

Felix: PPL, why the colors are not OK??

Michael C: I don't know Felix.

Felix: snif snif snif

Maggi: I meant Dude for Michael.

Felix: Ying do you have any idea? When I paste the avatar here, its color changes

Vance: I'm trying to reach Geocities on two computers now. Cezar, I'll have to send up your home page later. Neither are responding. The problem is at Geocities.

Maggi: Denilson used it...

Ying-Lan: ^the green bird is sing...

Michael C: Oh OK. Hi Dude Maggi.

Ying-Lan: ^I don't know...

Ying-Lan: Dude?


Maggi: He doesn't look like a dude...:-)

Vance: Cezar, when you get time, tell us more about yourself and I'll put the information on your home page. You can check it later.

Ying-Lan: unlucky?

Michael C: What does dude mean??

Felix: I looked up in the Palace's manual but I didnt find anything

Cezar: OK

Michael C: A cool guy/person?

Maggi: You don't know Michael?

Felix: dude = buddy ?

Vance: Why are you unlucky, Cezar?

Michael C: I think the meaning's changed recently.

Maggi: Oh

Cezar: Because I dont can see the webpage

Maggi: No Dude's in Oz?

Ying-Lan: ^I don't know the question Felix asked.

Maggi: More like a cowboy...

Felix: That's ok Ying.

Michael C: Only those infected by America will say dude!

Maggi: So, I am infected now!


Ying-Lan: hi

Michael C: You are American Maggi.

Vance: Well, when you see the web page, you will see that there's not much in it. You have to write us more first.

Ying-Lan: ^maggi. she lives in Germany...

Maggi: So...that doesn't mean I go in for dudes...:-)

Cezar: what do you need to know

Vance: You can look at the other people's web pages. Have a look at Felix's or Ying Lan's

Michael C: Yes she's an American living in Germany.......

Cezar: ok

Felix: How is the weather out there ? It's cold here

Vance: You can look at the other web pages and see what other students have said about themselves.

Michael C: Weather here?

Ying-Lan: ^Fleix, I wonder why you can do a lot of thing at the same time....

Felix: What do you mean Ying?

Maggi: not bad for a young man right AL?

Ying-Lan: ^I have not read a book in a month.

Vance: Felix and Ying Lan have well developed web pages. Some of the others are simpler.

Maggi: Ying...YL

Michael C: About 18 degrees by day; 13 by night.

Felix: I am reading 2 books at the same time.

Ying-Lan: WAAAAAaaaaa

Michael C: I'm like you Ying. I hardly ever read these days.

Felix: Celsius Michael?

Vance: What was the last book you read, YL?

Michael C: Yes - celsius.

Ying-Lan: ^Micahel... you are a writer ... not a reader.

Maggi: Teachers have too many other things to read usually.

Ying-Lan: ^You write something..

Michael C: I like that idea Ying. Why do you say that?

Felix: Michael is a writer???!!!!!!

Maggi: Michael has always wanted to be one maybe.

Michael C: You sound surprised Felix!

Ying-Lan: ^You are a teacher and you are busy to do your project.

Felix: I am Michael

Maggi: I've written a book.

Felix: What is the name?

Vance: Have you? What about?

Michael C: I'm not a real writer...check out my webpage sometime and you'll see. I mess around and write a bit.

Ying-Lan: ^The title is...?

Maggi: It is International Business English.

Vance: Which publisher?

Maggi: It is suggestopedy.

Maggi: Junger Verlag.

Felix: What is the editor company ?

Maggi: Originally Junger has it...they bought out PLS

Ying-Lan: ^cjunger

Ying-Lan: what

Maggi: expensive though...comes with 7 CD's.

Ying-Lan: ^What is "PLS"?

Felix: So it's a digital book

Maggi: Was a publishing company here for just suggestology.

Michael C: 7 CD's? that would cost a fortune!

Maggi: No Felix...Superlearning.

Maggi: aabout DM 350...but it works.

Michael C: I agree with your label Felix.

Maggi: haha :-)

Felix: lol

Michael C: Too many identities!

Ying-Lan: ^Soo, maggi. the book is talking about "English"?

Felix: I dont have many Michael

Michael C: Only about 5!

Maggi: About learning international business English.

Maggi: Negotiating...meetings, etc. That sort of thing.

Felix: Maggi seems to know more about Michael's book than him.

Michael C: No! it IS Maggi's book!

Maggi: It is MY book...:-)

Ying-Lan: it is maggi's

Maggi: that is clear...:-)

Michael C: I'm only a pretend writer!

Maggi: the great pretender!

Vance: I've coedited a book

Michael C: I'll accept that for now.

Ying-Lan: ^pretend?

Maggi: heh...I like pretenders :-)

Michael C: pretend = fake/not real

Felix: ???

Maggi: Michael is very real though!

Felix: why do you say that Maggi ?

Michael C: What was your book about Vance?

Ying-Lan: ^what is it?

Maggi: the great pretender is the name of a very old song.

Ying-Lan: Vance's book

Vance: About computers of course, in teaching languages

Michael C: Of course!

Maggi: no Yyying...Michael...

Maggi: Vance<'s book is probably better.

Michael C: Is it any good? (!)

Felix: Elvis Presley right Maggi ?

Vance: I can't find International Business English at Junger Verlag. I'm looking for it on the internet.

Maggi: I don't think so öFelix...

Maggi: I don't think you will find it Vance...

Felix: I think Elvi's is Lover pretend then

Maggi: geared to the German market.

Michael C: I thinkl Elvis did do the sing but someone did it before him.

Michael C: do the SONG.

Maggi: It goes back to the 50's...give me a minute to jog my memory.

Michael C: Hey Cezar - are you listening to all this?

Maggi: poor Cezar ...thinks we are all nuts...

Maggi: ...not just me...:-)

Michael C: nuts = crazy

Felix: I am not dum, maybe insane.

Felix: dumb

Maggi: insane?

Maggi: :-)

Cezar: Yes

Maggi: ok...let's talk straight then...

Michael C: That's good. I hope your not bored Cezar.

Maggi: how could this be boring?!

Felix: Maggi, tell them about my students.

Ying-Lan: ^In the real life, I am easy to cry and laught... sooo I am insane.

Cezar: in the meantime I browse some pages

Michael C: OK. That's what vance does too.

Maggi: I met some of Felix's student this week.

Ying-Lan: ^Felix,,, you told us the news too late.

Michael C: So Ying and Felix are both insane and I am a pretender!

Maggi: insane means you are totally crazy...not in this world...

Ying-Lan: ^Not what, maggi?

Maggi: ok...and I am the mad lady...

brian-r: @64,64 !It's brian-r

Michael C: Yep MAD Maggi.

Maggi: hi Brian...

Maggi: ...join the crowd!

Cezar: because here is 3 teachers who is my teacher

Michael C: Hello Brian.

Maggi: we all are Cezar...

Ying-Lan: ^Cezar,,, which one do you love?

Vance: Brian, you made it.

Felix: Hello Brian

Ying-Lan: ^Cezar,,, which one do you love?

Maggi: let me get rid of some of the things I left lying around here.

Cezar: is too difficult to learn for more teachers

Cezar: all ofthem

Maggi: ok..._Cezar what would you like most to learn?

Michael C: Love what? who?

Ying-Lan: what

Ying-Lan: ^Cezar,,, is confused who is his teacher.

Maggi: she means which one he likes most.

Michael C: Which teacher?

Maggi: yes, silly

Ying-Lan: silly?

Cezar: i want to correct me if I make mistakes

Michael C: Thank you Maggi.

Maggi: see...he likes all of us...a real diplomat.

Vance: You want us to correct you if you make mistakes?

Maggi: should be...correct me if I make a mistake Cezar.

Vance: This is really confusing. Brian is a teacher, too.

Maggi: oh...where is he from?

Vance: Is Brian still here?

Michael C: No Brian.

Vance: Wait, he's ICQing me.

Cezar: for the english language not for ideas

Ying-Lan: ^Cezar, maggi, michaelc and vance are our teachers.

Ying-Lan: ^(Cezar), maggi, michaelc and vance are our teachers.

Cezar: I know

Maggi: How is the weather in is it cloudy.

Felix: Brian is a teacher?????????

Ying-Lan: ^They will tell us if we make some mistakes in English.

Maggi: Cezar...can I have you fish?

Maggi: your fish?

Michael C: ^brb

Lu: @64,64 !It's Lu

Vance: Brian is another teacher at the EFI. He wanted to visit to see how our class works.

Ying-Lan: ^This is a chatting class... you just need to open your mind to say something.

Maggi: Hi Lu!

Vance: Hello Lu. How are you?

Felix: Where is Brian from ?

Vance: He's from the UK.

Felix: Hi Lu

Vance: Lu, where are you from?

Michael C: .

Ying-Lan: ^When you send your message to E-group..., all of us will receive it and read it.. It is like a mail list of the e-group.

Maggi: Hey who took that!

Lu: @64,64 !It's Lu

Ying-Lan: ^It is a kind of discussing way... to talk and to share us your idea...

Maggi: Try again please Cezar...

Ying-Lan: hi, lu

Vance: I found Brian. He's in a another room.

Ying-Lan: Brian

Vance: Brian, don't click on any doors.

Ying-Lan: ^Hi. Brian...

Michael C: Welcome back Brian.

Felix: WB Brian

Maggi: Hi Brian...

Vance: Now that he's back, we'll have to stop talking about him.

Michael C: And Brian is from.....?

Ying-Lan: ^I am a little cruious about ...brian-r...

Vance: Here Maggi, your fish.

Michael C: Me too...

* Maggi * ok...I have it...thank you!

Michael C: c-u-r-i-o-u-s Ying.

Ying-Lan: ^stange

Ying-Lan: curious

* Vance * You gotta be fast at this table

* Ying-Lan * ^Why does Brian-r keep silence?

Vance: Brian, everyone is dying of curiosity.

Maggi: Quit snatching my fish Vance!

Vance: I didn't take it.

Michael C: Especiall the cat!

Felix: what is snatching ?

* Maggi * I see that...blink and it's gone...

Vance: Snatch means to grab something quickly

Michael C: "Curiosity killed the cat" (Englsih expression)

brian-r: Is this how it works?

Maggi: He took my cat...

Vance: You got it!

Michael C: Bravo Brian!

Ying-Lan: ^what do you mean? Brian.

Vance: This is Brian's first time at the Palace, so he's just learning the controls.

Ying-Lan: ^"Michael...Not "Blue killed a cat"?

brian-r: Well hello! I'm also from the UAE.

Michael C: No Ying. We don't have such an expression in English. You do in Chinese?

Maggi: who is Blue Ying?

Ying-Lan: ^Blue=sad

Maggi: Someone said you were from England Brian.

Felix: But no one here is from UAE..

Maggi: Vance is...

Maggi: he lives there...

Michael C: You might say 'curiosity killed the cat' to someone if they're asking too many questiions.

Felix: Vance LIVES in UAE

Vance: Brian and I both live in the UAE (United Arab Emirates).

brian-r: Yes but I work in the UAE

Maggi: see Felix!

Ying-Lan: ^Vance lives in UAE but he cames from USA

Vance: We live in different Emirates. I'm in Abu Dhabi, and Brian works in Ajman.

Michael C: And you don't want to tell them the answers.

Felix: We have this expression in Portuguese too Michael

Ying-Lan: ^Vance lives in UAE but he comes from USA

Maggi: and then r

Vance: Right, Ying.

Michael C: That's interesting Felix.

Ying-Lan: ^.... I just said it in Chinese way.

Maggi: Sso Brian is British...?

Michael C: So how would you say it in a sentence?

Vance: Right, Maggi.

Maggi: ok...


Ying-Lan: ^"The Blue killed a cat" When someone is worry about something..

brian-r: Yes Maggi, Brian Is British

Vance: What banners? Not from the Palace.

Maggi: Whereabouts Brian?

Michael C: OK. we'd probably put 'blues' in the plural in that example.

Ying-Lan: ^bules.

Michael C: in "He's got the blues today."

Felix: from Palace Vance

Maggi: I don't get any banners Felix.

Ying-Lan: he got blues today?

brian-r: I'm from just north of London. And you?

Vance: I don't get banners. Are you a member, Felix?

Ying-Lan: banner?

Michael C: "He's got the blues today."

Maggi: I use to live just north of I am in Germany.

Felix: I dont have to agree but I dont agree with this expression.. I dont see blue as a sad color.. I would say He's got the GRAYs TODAY.

Felix: Yes, Vance I am a member.. It's a newer version I had installed

Michael C: But that wouldn't make any sense to anyone Felix! (in english)

Maggi: Pays too stick with the old version sometimes Felix...:-)

Felix: I know.. But never it late to change.. Language is always changing.

Vance: Thanks for the warning about the newer version!

Michael C: So the new version of the Palace has banners?

Maggi: forget it...I'll stay with this one.

Felix: yes. they have... and if you click on the X, soon it shows another one

Michael C: And yes of course you can change the language Felix!

Michael C: But people may not understand you.

Maggi: but the gray's sounds funny...

Maggi: ...and no one will get it.

Felix: lol

Michael C: OK let's make the change starting now. Who's got the grays?

Maggi: think your hair maybe is going gray.

Felix: at least you here will understand me.

Maggi: most of us...LOL

Felix: I have Michael.. Yesterday I was in a funeral.

Michael C: A small point: Aust/UK english spells it GREY.

Michael C: Whose funeral Felix?

Felix: A friend of mine. He was very ill.. Diabets.... only 32 years old..

Michael C: That's sad.

Ying-Lan: ^"32"

Ying-Lan: ^That's blues.

Felix: yes Ying. 32

Michael C: Was he a close friend?

Maggi: Brian is very quiet...

Ying-Lan: ^On other hands... he is in heaven now.

Vance: Bummahs

Felix: He needs to filter his kidney 3 times a week. What is the name of this procedure in English ?

Maggi: on the other hand

Ying-Lan: ^On other hand... he is in heaven now.

Michael C: "On the other hand" Ying.

Vance: dialasis

Michael C: Dialysis.

Felix: yes..

Ying-Lan: didlysis

Vance: dialysis

Felix: hemodialise in portuguese

Michael C: Die-al-i-sis

Felix: since January I have lost 5 friends.

Michael C: What?!

Maggi: This is n op

Maggi: not a good year for you Felix, is it?

Felix: Wanna be my close friend now Michael /

Michael C: That's insane.

Vance: In accidents? Disease?

Michael C: I don't know Felix. Sounds like I might die!

Felix: It started in New Year's... a couple died in a car accident. Then

Maggi: at New Year's

Vance: What a start to the year!

Felix: then a woman who had cancer, another man (32) with cancer too and yesterday this man with diabets

Felix: yes, the couple were the worst. Accidents always get us by surprise

Vance: That's too much.

Ying-Lan: ^Felix,,,, so I am not your friend now... it is terrible..?

Felix: I hope it stops for this year

Michael C: I think that's enough deaths for about 20 years.

Ying-Lan: kid

Maggi: but remember too, you had a son...and he is healthy...a new life begins.

Felix: i know you are kidding Ying.

Cezar: thys story sounds bad

Felix: Yeah Maggi... that's right.

brian-r: This is fascinating, but I'll have to go soon. We need some things from the supermarket nearby.

Maggi: Nothing open here today...

Vance: OK Brian. Glad you could make it. Now you have a feel for the Palace.

Felix: BTW, who is your health Ying ? I've heard you have ammenia

Michael C: Unfortunately we don't have a supermarket here.

Maggi: Come again Brian:-)

Maggi: how is your health...

Vance: See you online

Michael C: Bye Brian.

Felix: oops. It was a typo

Maggi: live in the sticks Michael?

Felix: Bye Brian

Ying-Lan: ^bye... brian

Cezar: bye

Maggi: bye Brian!

Ying-Lan: ^I am easy to tired.

Maggi: you ned iron then?

brian-r: Okay Vance. Thanks for inviting me. Goodbye everybody!

Michael C: No I mean we don't have a supermarket at the Palace!

Maggi: virtual food...

Michael C: Maybe you should turn off that alarm clock Ying!

Felix: I am 27 years old Cezar

Ying-Lan: oh

Maggi: Michael wants to go to bed soon and sleep...:-)

Michael C: Actually I'd better go too. I have to go and pick up my son soon.

Felix: But it's live Cezar.

Maggi: wait until he can drive himself Michael...

Felix: Cezar, talk in public

Felix: it's life

Ying-Lan: ^pick up.... it is late in Australia.

Michael C: After I pick up my son Maggi. (It's a holiday here tomorrow). It's 11.10 pm here.

Vance: I looked for all the food I could find. This is it.

Maggi: yuk!!!!!!!

Ying-Lan: ^That's great!

Michael C: You found some food Vance. Brian could have stayed!

Vance: There you are.

Maggi: I have to rummage around ...I might have something better...

Ying-Lan: ^You do not need to work this Monday.

Felix: The hot dog is mine

Vance: Poor guy. Doesn't know that all his needs can be met online.

Michael C: I'll leave you all to your feasting. But no - i don't have to work tomorrow.

Felix: Sorry about that Cezar...

Maggi: Anyone into bugs...?

Felix: Cezar how old are you?

Ying-Lan: That's great!

Vance: I can play with this

Vance: Thanks Maggi

Felix: I see

Maggi: my pleassure...

Michael C: Bon appetite. And good night everyone. It's been fun as usual.

Vance: Cezar is a manager of his own company.

Felix: Bye FRIEND MIchael

Vance: Bonne nuit MC

Maggi: I meant when he can drive Michael you can stop being a taxi...but it will cost you some nerves.

Michael C: Bon nuit!

Maggi: slaap lekker!

Vance: Uh, drive carefully (seeing that you are Felix's FRIEND)

Maggi: really!

Ying-Lan: insane

Felix: Ying, what religion are you ?

Michael C: Dan je wel. Good point Vance. I think I'll remain a distant friend of Felix!

Michael C: Ciao!

Vance: a virtual friend should be safe enough. Just don't open any email attachments

Maggi: :-)

Michael C: OK OK...

Felix: Tchau Michael

Felix: LOL

Michael C: I'm off!

Ying-Lan: ^Buddhism

Felix: oh I see. It's interesting

Ying-Lan: ^You mean,,, I am interesting...

Jotas: @64,64 !It's Jotas

Ying-Lan: Hi, Jotas

Cezar: you live in UE

Vance: If I were religious, I would be a buddist.

Vance: In UAE

Cezar: no Felix

Maggi: Hi Jotas...

Vance: Hi Jotas

Cezar: hy

Felix: What is the main religion in AUE ?

Ying-Lan: ^Waht do you mean ? Vance... You are not religious?

Vance: Right, Ying.

Maggi: Muslim Felix.

Vance: Right, Maggi.

Jotas: HI all

Ying-Lan: ^I think you are Catholic.

Felix: In Brazil is Catholicism.. And in German?

Maggi: me either...religious I mean...

Felix: Germany

Felix: no I dont have any religion.. I used to be Baptist

Maggi: Mixed...north is protestant and the south Catholic

Ying-Lan: ^maggi, you are not religious.

Vance: Hi Jotas. Where are you from?

Maggi: Not in the sense that I believe in one God...

Felix: I believe in Chistianism's God.

Maggi: Maybe all the food scared him...

Maggi: I think about the oneness of the universe...

Ying-Lan: the guy is gone.

Vance: Is religion important to you, YL?

Maggi: if there really is a God he has a quality control problem.

Ying-Lan: ^oneness?

Vance: Good one, Maggi.

Maggi: some blue mustard for the hot dog...

Maggi: it all belongs together one religion is any better or worse or more right ...

Ying-Lan: you are right.

Maggi: Gee...I have some garbage in my suitcase...

Ying-Lan: ^Vance, I think the religion is importand for me.

Maggi: weird things happen when you put them together...

Vance: Religion is very important in the Middle East.

Ying-Lan: ^Do you think it is obstacle to get improve in UAE?

Maggi: sometimes religion is an excuse I think...

Vance: Sometimes it's an obstacle, but on the other hand it contributes to the culture and values of the people here.

Ying-Lan: ^I mean they spent a lof money and time on the religion.

Maggi: money and time?

Ying-Lan: forgot it.

Jotas: @64,64 !It's Jotas

Vance: They do. They do that in many cultures. But Islam is an integral part of the people here, so they need to do what they do.

Maggi: I would do it too if I lived there.

Ying-Lan: ^Is it time to say bye... we have been for 2 hours.

Maggi: wow...

Vance: It's been very nice to have seen you.

Maggi: time flies when you are having fun...

Felix: Maggi you are so stylish now.. LOL

Maggi: nice to see you Ying...

Ying-Lan: ^yes.

Ying-Lan: ^you will go on?

Vance: Not for long, I don't think.

Maggi: cleaning out my closet Felix...

Vance: It's balcony time.

Ying-Lan: ^balcony time...

Maggi: with a beer of course...:-)

Felix: one day I will send you a bottle of cachaça Vance.

Vance: I look forward to that Felix, but one day I will come and get it myself.

Felix: That's better then.

Vance: It's the time of evening where I go sit on my balcony.

Maggi: let's all go together....:-)

Felix: good idea Maggi

Maggi: thanks...

Felix: Bye all.

Vance: Next mardi gras!??

* Cezar * So I must to go

Maggi: bye Felix...

Felix: Have a nice and peaceful week FRIENDS

* Cezar * bye all

Vance: OK, Cezar, it's good you could join us.

Maggi: now there is a thought...

* Cezar * thank you

Maggi: Felix is leaving...

* Cezar * bye

Vance: I'll get your web page up when Geocities starts working again.

* Cezar * waiting

Vance: Cezar is whispering, but he's saying goodbye.

Maggi: Cezar!

Ying-Lan: bye

Ying-Lan: cezar

Ying-Lan: felix is gone?

Felix: bye cezar

Vance: See you next week, we hope.

Maggi: well...I have a pile of mundane things to do too!

Felix: Wanna talk in my back Ying ?

Ying-Lan: nothing

Ying-Lan: say bey to you.

Maggi: behind your back...

Maggi: in your back is funny...

Felix: lol

Maggi: like your back is a microphone!

Vance: You can't talk behind anyone's back. They can read it in the chat log on the web.

Felix: But there's a Censor here Vance.. LOL

Ying-Lan: clean these... food.

Maggi: who is a censor?

Felix: ask Vance.. LOL

Vance: Look at the end of last week's chat log. There is a joke there.

Maggi: oh?

Ying-Lan: joke? what is your secret?

Maggi: address?

Ying-Lan: ^What is your secrect?

Vance: easy way,

Ying-Lan: then?

Vance: netword = webheads

Vance: Then follow the links to the chat logs

Ying-Lan: That's a joke?

Vance: Did you not find our secrets, YL?

Ying-Lan: No....

Vance: Felix knows the secrets.

Ying-Lan: ^What is it?

Felix: yes ying. at the bottom he wrote.."Censoured.. Only teacher's talk".. I have been teasing him about that

Vance: In that chat, we were talking about our ages, remember?

Vance: For some people, that's a secret.

Maggi: he thought the teachers were talking about the students.

Vance: Actually, I'm interested in logging the chats to record student interaction.

Vance: If the students aren't there, then it's irrelevant to me.

Vance: So I "censor" whatever is said when students aren't there.

Vance: I also cut out some whispering.

Maggi: good idea...

Maggi: you mean the whispering shows up on the log...?

Felix: I am still drowsy. I will try to get a nap for now.

Maggi: all the whispering?

Vance: Yeah, on your log if you're being whispered to.

Felix: Maggi is worried now.. LOL

Vance: Not the whispering behind my back.

Maggi: so if someone doesn't whisper to you it won't show on the log.

Vance: Yeah, I bet Maggi was getting worried thee.

Vance: there

Vance: Are you concerned about this Maggi?

Vance: Why, what did you say?

Maggi: you bet...:-)

Ying-Lan: sorry

Felix: shame on Maggi.. ROFLMAO

Vance: No, if you whisper to Felix, I wouldn't know about it. It wouldn't be in my log.

Maggi: I never say anything I wouln't put on the back of a postcard.

Ying-Lan: ^Don't look at back, when someone say you that.

Vance: I've seen some pretty wild postcards in Amsterdam and Copenhagen/

Felix: i have gotta go

Felix: bye all

Ying-Lan: me, too.

Maggi: that leaves me open then!!

Vance: When does someone say that to you?

Ying-Lan: waht

Maggi: Bye Felix...have a nice nap...:-)

Vance: Don't look back, means don't think about the past.

Felix: I will srew my bed now..

Felix: bye

Vance: Just go there, do what you plan to do, don't look back.

Ying-Lan: ^It is a Chinese sentence...I can not translate it.

Vance: Bye Felix.

Vance: Glad you could make it.

Maggi: try nails better than screws...

Felix: ???

Ying-Lan: ^Let me think... how to write it in English.

Felix: screw = mess ???

Ying-Lan: ^If I made it out, I will let you know by email, it is o.k. Vance.

Maggi: one of the meanings...

Vance: OK

Felix: and the others?

Maggi: not here...:-)

Felix: icq me then

Ying-Lan: ^say bye.

Vance: bye

Maggi: bye


Felix: Bye all

Vance: Why did we all say, bye?

Maggi: because Felix is leaving...

Maggi: ,,,and Ying

Vance: Well, I guess I'll depart as well.

Maggi: and she said to say bye...and we did...:-)

Maggi:'s off we all go...

Vance: Guess, what, Hilda is on her way.

Maggi: A little late isn't she

Vance: She just asked again if it was ok to join us. Very polite.

Maggi: I've been online four hours...good grief...

Vance: It would be nice to see her. .. another icq message ...

Maggi: why not...

Vance: She's asking for the http. I wonder if she knows it's the palace. Soon find out.

Vance: I'm actually wrapping up some work here, so I'm easy.

Vance: Bobbi has me committed to going to two people's houses tonight to help them with their computers.

Hilda: @64,64 !It's Hilda

Vance: There's Hilda. How have you been?

Maggi: Hi Hilda...

Vance: woops, I'll bet she went in the other room.

Vance: I'll go look.

Maggi: ok

Vance: hang on

Maggi: Vance just went to get aou

Vance: She'll be back

Hilda: @64,64 !It's Hilda

Maggi: you...well talk about bunping in the doorway

Vance: There you are. We had one guy get lost in there for 5 min tonigh.

Maggi: Watch that door...

Vance: So how is medical school? Are you a doctor yet?

Hilda: hello, maggi, vance!

Maggi: oh...what kind of doctor?

Hilda: ^how to ospleak?

Vance: ospleak?

Hilda: oh. i can speak now..though the speed is slow

Vance: call from home

Hilda: maggi, i am an intern doctor!

Vance: Hilda, you just missed a very nice class. Also a long one.

Hilda: errrrr......where and when is it?

Vance: It stared almost 3 hours ago.

Hilda: did u have a copy of it?

Vance: It's every Sunday at 11:30 gmt.

Vance: Yes, we're making a copy now, a log of the chat.

Hilda: send to my email account, would u?

Hilda: maggi, where from?

Vance: The logs are posted on the web. I'll send you the url when it's up.

Hilda: thanks....

Maggi: Germana

Maggi: oops Germany

Vance: I guess we're going to have to go. We've both been online a long time.

Maggi: Vance...what is a male witch called?

Hilda: ha...i am just wondering

Vance: A mail witch ... a warlock?

Vance: I'm starting to shut down my computers. My wife just called and wanted to know where I am.

Maggi: that's what I thought too.

Maggi: oh oh

Hilda: bye bye. nice to meet both of u!

Maggi: same here!

Hilda: maggi, r u leaving too?

Maggi: better hurry Vance or you will be stepping in dog doo soon!

Maggi: I should Hilda.

Vance: I'm talking to my boss.

Maggi: well...bigger doo!

Hilda: doo??

Maggi: the stuff dogs leave on the sidewalk Hilda.

Maggi: :-)

Vance: I guess I've got to go. My office computer is off. This one's next.

Hilda: maggi::))

Vance: I'll see you guys. I'm in shut down mode.

Hilda: i got it!

Maggi: bye Vance...have fun helping the othetrs...I'm next when you get the chance :-)

Hilda: bye!

Vance: I'll fly there.

Vance: bye.

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