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Chat with students Ying-Lan from Taiwan and Eileen from China, and teachers Michael C, MAD Maggi, and Vance (only briefly)

June 13, 1999

  *** Welcome to Virtual School House Maggi!

Maggi: @64,64 !It's Maggi

*** You now have wizard privileges.

12:23:48 - Opening Log

Vance: @64,64 !It's Vance

Maggi: Oh it's only you!

Vance: ONLY me!!!

Vance: (oh, just Maggi, might as well go back out now) ...

Maggi: I heard a ding...

Vance: Yeah. My class is at 4. It's 3:30 now.

Maggi: How long you need to get there?

Vance: 15 min

Maggi: so we can shoot the breezw for 15!

Vance: Doing some last minute photocopying, checking the skills I gotta go through

Maggi: your skills or the ones you are teaching?

Vance: I'm supposed to look like I know what I'm doing

Vance: The ones I'm teaching

Maggi: wing it!

Maggi: you know what you are doing!

Vance: Yeah, just a last minute prep

Maggi: if you are confident you know what you are doing they will buy it.

Vance: no problem. I'm always confident.

Maggi: me too...drives people nuts

Vance: If only they really knew!

Maggi: they wonder how I can stand up to Dr Prof. somebody and use

his first name so nonchalantly.

Maggi: hey...he wants to learn English...we aren't into titles.

Ying-Lan: @64,64 !It's Ying-Lan

Maggi: Hi Ying

Ying-Lan: Helo...^o^

Vance: Hi YL

Ying-Lan: What's going on?

Maggi: Vance will have to leave in a few minutes...

Ying-Lan: now???

Maggi: diving lesson calls...:-)

Vance: I just stopped by to say hi. And thanks for all the help with the sound file thing.

Vance: Yeah, I could only get a pool at 4

Ying-Lan: Don't you want to come back?

Maggi: You could get one here probably...

Maggi: :-)

Vance: I can't. I'll be teaching till 8.

Ying-Lan: ^You can't be here, because you will be teaching another real class..

Maggi: I am here and Michael said he would come earlier if he could.,

Vance: I am teaching a diving class tonight.

Maggi: gee 4 hours of that the normal length of a class Vance?

Maggi: you have 5 min Vance...

Ying-Lan: ^What is the diving class?

Maggi: people whop

Vance: thanks maggi. Last minute wrap up here. Naw, could last only 3 hours. Depends on the students.

Maggi: oops...people who learn how to dive...

Ying-Lan: I remember,,, Vance like to diving..

Maggi: Vance loves it...I think I will take lessons too here.

Ying-Lan: But Vance. Have you read my the last email talking about the huge file?

Ying-Lan: What kind of lession do you want to take?

Vance: Yeah. Tonight I'm teaching a class. OK, I just photocopied some materials and checked what Ihave to do tonight, and I'm shutting down in a few minutes (fingers racing here).

Ying-Lan: lesson

Ying-Lan: Finger racing?

Vance: Yeah, my fingers are racing over the keyboard. OK, guys, nice to see you again. I've got to run. Hold the fort Maggi.

Maggi: <I hope so

Ying-Lan: O.k.

Maggi: please forgive me if I give it away?

Vance: Bye YL. Thanks for your email. I'll try and solve the openup problem tomorrow.

Vance: give what away?

Ying-Lan: it is o.k.

Vance: confidence?

Vance: got it

Vance: ooops

Ying-Lan: That's I want ask maggi, Give what away?

Vance: better run ... (foot outta mouth) ...

Vance: I'll let you guys sort it out. Bye.

Maggi: it means that I am responsible for the log...

Maggi: I hope I have it ...:-)=

Ying-Lan: I only saw a message from other web site.. A notebook of Mitsubishi only USD789.00, Is it a crazy price?

Maggi: that is crazy!

Maggi: Pretty soon I can get a new laptop.

Ying-Lan: But It is attractive price... I might to but it now.

Maggi: Why not?! It is not worth waiting.

Ying-Lan: ^Money talk, mine only know how to say good-bye...?

Ying-Lan: ^I will cosider how much money I have to pay for the postage charge...

Ying-Lan: I heard you are busy this week...

Ying-Lan: I heard you were busy this week...

Maggi: Yes...I have to earn my money when I can.

Ying-Lan: How do you do... your money is not like mine,,, mine only know how to say good - bye... I read the sentence in book.. that's interesting.

Maggi: I think I need to save the log now...Vance wants me to save it.

Maggi: my money says goodbye too...

Ying-Lan: Why do we make money for?

Ying-Lan: ^It is not so much for living...

Maggi: we make money to satisfy 3 basic needs.

Maggi: food, shelter and clothes...

Ying-Lan: ^What is the 3 basic needs

Ying-Lan: ^The 3 basic needs is not so expensive as we thought.

Ying-Lan: Except the cost of the house.

Maggi: depends on where you live Ying.

Ying-Lan: ^Is the house expensive in Germany?

Maggi: In some areas yes...very.

Ying-Lan: ^I think so... it is also expensive in Taiwan.

Ying-Lan: ^Chinese like to buy their own house. ....

Ying-Lan: ^I will be a begger after I buy a house..

Maggi: most people here do too!

Maggi: I still rent.

Ying-Lan: ^Really....?

Maggi: the US too.

Ying-Lan: ^But Maggi, You are a American,,, are you allowed to buy a house in Germany?

Maggi: oh...I could

Maggi: if I had the money :-)

Maggi: they are expensive here but they last forever.

Ying-Lan: ^last

Ying-Lan: last forever?

Ying-Lan: Another question is "Mondonna has 3 sisters - Melanie, Paula and Jennifer (half sister)..." What is the half sisiter?

Maggi: they are built well...

Maggi: a half sister means that they have one parent in common.

Maggi: Either mother or father.

Ying-Lan: Thanks a lot.

Maggi: no problem.

Maggi: your sun look tired...

Maggi: looks

Maggi: Are you?

Ying-Lan: A little...

Ying-Lan: I don't how to talk in English now...

Ying-Lan: ^There is blank in my mind.

Maggi: No problem...I get them too! :-)

Ying-Lan: Do you remember any cute bumper stickers?

Maggi: shit happens is one of the best...:-)

Ying-Lan: ^Like this one: Hit me! I need the money!

Maggi: Good one too...

Ying-Lan: ^I don't understand the sentence : shit happens is one of the best...:-

Ying-Lan: Shit happens... it is bad thing... why the bad thing is one of the best?

Maggi: shit happens is a bumper sticker...

Maggi: it is ttru

Maggi: true

Ying-Lan: Why?

Maggi: it does happen

Ying-Lan: ^No Pain no gain?

Maggi: yes...something like that

Ying-Lan: Give me an example... please.

Maggi: when I miss a class because I wrote it down on the wrong day.

Maggi: A student has her shoe break on the way to class.

Ying-Lan: ^It happened by chance.

Ying-Lan: ^Do you teach your studend one by one, face to face?

Ying-Lan: ^Do you teach your student one by one, face to face?

Maggi: I have groups and lots of one-on-one classes.

Maggi: I have Managers too!

Ying-Lan: I don't understand ..

Ying-Lan: ^I may be slow, but I'm ahead of you! .. another bumper sticker.

Maggi: what don't you understand?

Maggi: that is a good one too!

Maggi: LOL

Ying-Lan: ^You have a manager? That's mean you work in a company, right?

Maggi: I work in two companies...

Ying-Lan: I just think maybe you tutor your student in private.

Maggi: people do not want to pay much for private lessons.

Ying-Lan: ^I think I need a tutor to help me to study English.

Maggi: Companies pay more...if you are good you can get a lot of work...

Ying-Lan: ^That's right.

Ying-Lan: ^But some teach student in private in Taiwan.

Ying-Lan: It is very expensive.

Ying-Lan: ^I live at a small town..

Maggi: I read about it.

Ying-Lan: ^I seldom met a American to tutor me.

Maggi: But are the teachers good?

Ying-Lan: That's my problem

Ying-Lan: I don't know they are good or not...

Michael C: @64,64 !It's Michael C

*** Page from System: Michael C made wizard

Ying-Lan: ^There is a joke in Taiwan....

Maggi: Hi Michael

Michael C: Hello people.

Ying-Lan: ^If American can not find job in USA, just come to Taiwan and he will be a rich soon.

Michael C: Is that true Ying?

Ying-Lan: I don't know...

Michael C: Can that really happen?

Ying-Lan: ^It is a joke.

Michael C: Maybe I can come there and get rich?

Maggi: you wish...what would you do with the money?#

Ying-Lan: ^Teaching English is paid by high salary.. in Taiwan.

Michael C: Travel, buy another house - the usual things.

Michael C: Hello new friend.

Ying-Lan: ^Before 10 years ago,,,,

Maggi: that would make you happier?

Ying-Lan: hi, new freind?

Ying-Lan: Maggi, I am happy here.

Michael C: No maggie. But it might make my wife happier! She's restless.

Maggi: oh...

Ying-Lan: ^"Hit me! I need the money!"

Michael C: Sounds like a line from a movie....

Ying-Lan: ^michaelc,, I just ask maggi to told me more Bumper sticker.

Michael C: Ok. I get it.

New Friend: Hi everyone this is eileen

Ying-Lan: ^Like "I may be slow, but I am ahead of you."

Ying-Lan: eileen,,, It is great to talk to you....

Michael C: Hey! It's Eileen. Welcome Eileen!

Maggi: Hi Eileen...nice to see you!

Michael C: Is this your first time here?

Ying-Lan: ^So,, you have a person computer in your house?

New Friend: Yes, this is my first time to palace

Ying-Lan: that's great!

New Friend: In fact, I am in my office

Maggi: great! Glad to see you!

Ying-Lan: Really?

Michael C: Well done Eileen. many people find it too difficult to get here.

Ying-Lan: ^Are you still working now?

New Friend: Yes, Michael, I could not be on line at home.

Maggi: I have to save this...

Ying-Lan: ARe you happy?

* New Friend * Hi Ying Lan, I am not working, I just go shoping. And my office is near that supermarket.

Michael C: Eileen - does this mean you are working in the office on a Sunday night?

New Friend: I am very glad to talk with you all, I just install palace client software.

Ying-Lan: She is busy..

Michael C: Do you work on Sundays?

Ying-Lan: I am curious.. could you go to anywhere on Internet?

Ying-Lan: she is gone..

Michael C: I wonder what happened.....

Michael C: Have you been able to save this Maggie?

Ying-Lan: maggi is busy, I guess.

Michael C: Isn't she talking to us?

Ying-Lan: ^I don't know... she always answer me short words tonigt.

Ying-Lan: I guess she is busy now.

Michael C: Maybe she's talking on ICQ. How are things with you Ying?

Michael C: Welcome back Eileen.


Ying-Lan: You know I would plan to study the grammar book in this weeken.. but I don't know why I did not open the book

Michael C: Maybe something more exciting came up?!

New Friend: Hi, I just use this software, I click a wrong button

Michael C: Or do you think studying grammar is exciting?

Ying-Lan: ^I spent a lot of time to record songs for e-group. but it has been refused to accept by the e-group..

Michael C: (no problem Eileen - we're glad you're back)

Ying-Lan: Because it is too huge.

Michael C: Was it a Real Audio file?

Ying-Lan: Yes, it is.

Ying-Lan: ^The bad thing... I did not save the context of the email.

* Michael C * maggie - I'm also logging this bit....

Ying-Lan: ^It took more one hour to write it.

* Maggi * I got it anyway...:-)

Michael C: You mean the words to the song?

Ying-Lan: ^no... I wrote some sentences about the singer. and smomething in my mind. .

Michael C: oh. How big was the file?

Ying-Lan: ^let me check it.

Michael C: Eileen - do you often work on Sundays?

Ying-Lan: ^It is 836 KB

Ying-Lan: ^Huge?

Michael C: mmm...not so big. But obviously e-groups must have a limit.

Maggi: keep talking...

Ying-Lan: ^The email just disappeared on Internet.

Ying-Lan: ^Nobody could read it.

Michael C: Most of my songs are about 400-500 k.

Ying-Lan: That's my stupid

Ying-Lan: ^Have you heard the famous blue raincoat?

Michael C: Is that a song?

Ying-Lan: ^"The famous bule raincoat" is the title of the song which I sent it.

Ying-Lan: ^It is an old song.. the album released in 1986.

Michael C: I don't know this song. What is is about?

Ying-Lan: ^A letter from Leonard Cohen.

Maggi: Cohen is one of my favorites!

Michael C: Ah - Leonard Cohen! Then maybe it's a bit depressing!

Ying-Lan: ^depessing?

Maggi: he isn't so much depressing as he makes you think about things.

Michael C: Yes. Something that makes you sad.

Ying-Lan: ^I don't know... Maybe I don't really understand the English song....

Michael C: You're very quiet Eileen......

New Friend: Hi everyone I have to be off line, It is very nice time to meet with you.

Ying-Lan: Why?

Michael C: Come back again Eileen.

Maggi: I bet I am doing all this work to save every 15 minutes and it isn't necessary...:-)

Ying-Lan: she is gone.

Michael C: Tool late!

Michael C: I don't know Maggie.

Ying-Lan: But the vocal by Jennifer Warnes.

Michael C: Vance must have a reason for doing it that way.

Maggi: I thought so too...I don't want to disappoint him!

Ying-Lan: ^I was so wonder why vance could keep the whole conversation.

Michael C: Jennifer Warnes? Don't think I've heard her either.

Ying-Lan: Really?

Ying-Lan: ^I don't like the lady?

Michael C: Well if you edit the conversation it takes longer.

Ying-Lan: ^Jennifer warnes?

Michael C: I don't know Ying. I just don't think I've heard her sing.

Ying-Lan: Oh....

Michael C: Does she have stuff on the web?

Maggi: I always thought the whole thing was saved when you opened the log.

Ying-Lan: Yeappp. Sometimes, I read the whole conversation to find my mistake.

Michael C: Good on you Ying!

Ying-Lan: ^I appreciate you to save the whole conversation.

Michael C: I think that does save the whole thing maggie....

Michael C: It's a great way to learn Ying.

Maggi: shouldn't that be good for you?

Ying-Lan: Michale, the website of Jennifer warnes is building now.

Ying-Lan: ^Do you want to listen the sone?

Ying-Lan: ^I could send it to you by email, if you want.

Maggi: then why does Vance save to a MS doc every 15 min? Something about the buffer filling up...

Michael C: Yes - but I don't know if I want you to email me something so big!

Ying-Lan: What?

Michael C: You should put it on your website.

Ying-Lan: So big

Ying-Lan: I don't know how to put it on my web?

Ying-Lan: ^What is the Real server?

Michael C: It's not so hard. I would imagine that Geocities have Real Server set up.

Ying-Lan: ^I don't think it is illegal to put the song on my web... If it is not authorized by her company.

Ying-Lan: ^I think it is illegal to put the song on my web... If it is not authorized by her company.

Michael C: That's a good question. It may be illegal. I worry about that because I have 2 songs of other people on my site and I haven't asked permission.

Ying-Lan: Sooo, give up it.

Michael C: But at least on myb site I am singing the songs. It's my version of their material.

Michael C: And I credit the writers for the songs. i don't pretend they're mine or anything.

Ying-Lan: ^Where do I get the real server of the geocities?

Ying-Lan: ^Michale c,,, you don

Ying-Lan: ^you don't want to have the song of the Famous blue rain coat...

Michael C: You may not need to get it. Check if you can hear real Audio files from other Geocities sites. I bet you can.

Ying-Lan: Then?

Ying-Lan: ^If I listen to it, then I will get the real server?

Michael C: OK Ying. Send it to me. Now would be a good time actually.....

Ying-Lan: ^Send it by ICQ?

Michael C: If Geocities ghave Real Server configured for use on their pages you don;t have to get the Real Server.

Michael C: No Ying. I'd prefer normal email please.

Ying-Lan: ^I can not send it by icq

Michael C: Whatever you prefer....

Michael C: Maggie - is all this logging business keeping you quiet?!

Michael C: Did anyone else come here tonight?

Michael C: Felt like a change Ying?

Ying-Lan: @64,64 !It's Ying-Lan

Ying-Lan: Sorry

Ying-Lan: ^I have to chang the ISP to send the email to Michaelc.

Michael C: So small..but cute. Why sorry?

Maggi: Yes...this is the pits...

Maggi: I keep losing where I left off copying...

Ying-Lan: ^It will take for 5 mintutes to sent the file, I guess.

Ying-Lan: ^It is o.k. maggi.

Michael C: Well I'll just send the bit that I've saved when we finish...if that helps..

Michael C: If we talk less you'll have less to save!

Ying-Lan: ^Do you "Leonard Cohen"?

Ying-Lan: ^Do you like "Leonard Cohen"?

Maggi: Maybe I give it up since you have it Michael...

Maggi: I love Cohen

Ying-Lan: Really!

Michael C: I don;t have it Ying. But don't worry if it's too hard.

Ying-Lan: @64,64 !It's Ying-Lan

Michael C: And i do like Cohen - I just have to be in the right mood to listen to him.

Maggi: He is really deep!

Michael C: And sombre! (or somber?)

Ying-Lan: ^o.k. Michalec, it is done.

Ying-Lan: ^It was sent by email.

Michael C: OK Ying. I'll check.....

Ying-Lan: Maggi, do you want to listen to the song?

Maggi: did you see the film McCabe and Mrs. Miller?

Ying-Lan: No... not yet

Michael C: The song is coming in now. It will be interesting to see how long it takes.

Ying-Lan: ^I hope you like it.

Ying-Lan: What is the film? maggi.

Maggi: sure!

Maggi: It has the music from Cohen...and old film though...end of the 60'Ä

Maggi: 60's or early 70's

Ying-Lan: ^I am too young to see the film. LOL ^0^

Michael C: I think I saw it....many years ago!

Ying-Lan: ^I think it did not released in Taiwan.

Ying-Lan: ^I think it did not release in Taiwan.

Michael C: ...did not GET released in Taiwan, (It has to be in the Passive.)

Ying-Lan: Thanks

Michael C: The song is half downloaded....

Ying-Lan: It did not get released in Taiwan.

Ying-Lan: I only read those lyrics in the casette.

Ying-Lan: ^Like "First we take Manhattan... "

Ying-Lan: ^I think I don't really understand the menings like you.

Michael C: What do you mean? Is this another bumper sticker?

Ying-Lan: ^It seems so simple...

Michael C: Well lyrics and poetry can usually have meanings on different levels.

Maggi: I think she is talking about song lyrics

Michael C: Maybe a simple level and a deeper level. And the deeper levels are always difficult!

Ying-Lan: No.. I only read the works of Leonard Cohen in the casetts which I bought.

Ying-Lan: ^I don't think it is depressing until you told me.

Ying-Lan: ^Maybe I misunderstand it.

Ying-Lan: ^I like to listen to the song when it rained all night.

Maggi: and that isn't easy in English

Ying-Lan: ^Really?

Michael C: I'm listening to the song now.....

Maggi: Cohen is not so depressing YSing!

Michael C: OK OK. Cohen is not depressing!

Ying-Lan: why do you like him?

Ying-Lan: ^He is a good looking? lol

Maggi: I like him because he makes you think.

Ying-Lan: Think what?

Ying-Lan: ^The bird on a wire...

Michael C: He wrote many songs that I remember a particular time of my lkife and many of my friends listened to him all the time!

Michael C: Bird on a wire is great!

Michael C: And Suzanne.

Ying-Lan: ^Micalec , do you like the song "Famous bule raincoat"?

Michael C: "Suzanne takes you down to a place by the river." Yes Ying I like it. Very moody saxophone!

Maggi: Susanne is forever in my mind because of the film.

Ying-Lan: It is slow...

Ying-Lan: I don't know the song.

Michael C: Hey - I have to go. I have to go and Pick up my son. Thanks for the song Ying.

Michael C: Shall I send you my log Maggie?

Maggi: now I HAVE to make sure...

Ying-Lan: ^It is hard to buy the casette of Leonard Cohen.

Ying-Lan: It is o.k.

Maggi: I have it actually...

Michael C: Don't worry now. Let me know.....

Maggi: I figured no one would show up except the diehards.

Michael C: Have to rush. Bye.

Maggi: bye

Ying-Lan: bye

*** Page from System: Michael C has logged off, 1 wizard remains(you)

Ying-Lan: Time to go..

Ying-Lan: ^But maggi, do you want me to send the huge file to you?

Maggi: you can f you like...

Ying-Lan: I will do it.

Ying-Lan: Thanks maggi for talking.

Ying-Lan: and saving the scripts.

Maggi: I have them...

Ying-Lan: bye-bye

Maggi: bye for now

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