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Chat with the usual crowd: students Felix from Bahia and Ying-Lan from Taiwan, and teachers Michael C, MAD Maggi, and Vance

July 25, 1999

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*** Welcome to Virtual School House Vance!

Vance: @64,64 !It's Vance

Ying-Lan: @64,64 !It's Ying-Lan

Vance: Hi there, Ying Lan.

Vance: Hello

Ying-Lan: hello

Vance: Nice to see you.

Vance: Guess what?

Ying-Lan: What?

Vance: I'm at home today, not at work.

Ying-Lan: Really! whY?

Vance: I have a surprise two-day holiday.

Ying-Lan: ^surprise two days holiday?

Vance: Yeah. When an Arab leader dies, the Arab world has a mourning period.

Ying-Lan: ^For the "Dubai Summer Prise"?

Ying-Lan: Who died?

Vance: King Hassan of Morocco.

Ying-Lan: Is it sad?

Ying-Lan: ^Is his wife a American?

Vance: No, the Arab governments must express their sympathy by declaring a mourning period in the country.

Vance: hello, still there?

Ying-Lan: ^Now, I am listening to the lecture of "Lester C. Thurow" on internet... Do you want to try the website ,

Vance: I could do that, but I would have to change computers. Do you want me to do that?

Ying-Lan: ^You could visit it later.

Vance: OK. What's it about?

Ying-Lan: ^The web site is a famous Economic magazine in Taiwan.

Ying-Lan: ^It is in Chinese big 5.

Ying-Lan: ^But the speech is in Enlish..

Vance: Hmmm, maybe I'll do it MUCH later .. do you find it useful to practice your English with this site?

Vance: Does your test have a lot of listening?

Ying-Lan: ^No,... it is a professonial test about the letter of credit.

Vance: But it requires good knowledge of English?

Maggi: @64,64 !It's Maggi

Maggi: Hi

Maggi: I was busy cl3eaning.

Ying-Lan: ^It is in Chinese.. but ICC uniform Customs and Practice published by ICC.. it is in English.

Maggi: spiders are running everywhere

Ying-Lan: ^But We also read the UCP 500 in Chinese. We have the translation one.

Vance: Hi

Maggi: will cost DM 94 from Munich to Innsbruck.

Vance: What is UCP?

Maggi: DM 197,20 from Milan to Innsbruck.

Vance: Oh, thanks Maggi.

Vance: That's great. I appreciate the service.

Maggi: I know what that is Ying.

Ying-Lan: ^Mr. Thurow visited Taiwan and made a speech .. it is very amazing and interesting to read his speech... I read it in Chinese.

Vance: What is it Maggi?

Maggi: I have a student, female going to Taiwan.

Maggi: Internationalö

Maggi: oops...International codes

Vance: YL is listening to a speech by Mr. Thurow online.

Maggi: oh

Vance: UCP is international codes?

Ying-Lan: ^I watched the program on TV this morning.

Maggi: Inco terms

Ying-Lan: ^It is hard to explain what is UCP ...

Maggi: business stuff

Ying-Lan: ^It is a international commercial business .

Maggi: she is in accounting Ying

Vance: Well, what do the letters UCP stand for?

Ying-Lan: ^When you buy something from another country,, you usually make payment by T/T or check.

Vance: k

Ying-Lan: ^But the importer import the cargo... (it is huge and be ship by container) the exporter and importer, both have to make the deal by the Letter of Credit.. bcause the bank will be the "middleman" in

Vance: ok

Ying-Lan: ^Bank will be the "middleman" in this transaction.

Ying-Lan: ^There are a lot of problems incurred.

Maggi: told you ... you donīt want to have to know this stuff,

Vance: So they have to arrange with the bank for a letter of credit, and that's what you do?

Maggi: a Letter of Credit is standard practice with overseas shipments.

Ying-Lan: ^Icc is "Inernational Chamber of Commerce" they made the rule to help peopple to perform it.

Maggi: The bank guarantees payment.

Ying-Lan: ^It sound complicated...

Vance: So is that what you are studying YL? Are you trying to learn about this work so that you can do it?

Ying-Lan: ^To be honest, I had worked in the L/C department of my compay for over 5 years, but I was changed the position last month.

Maggi: What do you do now Ying?

Ying-Lan: ^Now, I work in the loan department now.

Maggi: loans for normal people or businesses?

Ying-Lan: ^But I still have been studying the UCP 500.. do you remember I still be in holiday course to study it.

Vance: Well, what will you do if you succeed in the test?

Ying-Lan: ^I paid the money to study it, I need to pass the test.

Vance: Ah, the UCP 500 ... must be a collection of 500 companies whose stocks are benchmarked, am I right?

Maggi: I wish you lots of luck can do it!

Ying-Lan: ^On other hand, I have a important test in next March...

Ying-Lan: NO,,,

Maggi: :-)

Vance: Is it a 500 kilometer race?

Vance: (kidding)

Maggi: you wish...:-)

Ying-Lan: ^I typed the terms of UCP500 but it was destroyed by the wrong key...

Vance: oops

Ying-Lan: ^I can not show you what is UCP 500 ... There are 48 terms to describe the Letter of Credit.

Vance: OK. Maybe I can find some information on the web. I'll ask Jeeves.

Ying-Lan: ^Vance, UCP 500 is "ICC Uniform Customs and Practice for Documentary Credits- 1993 Revision"

Maggi: it is boring stuff Vance if you donīt need to know.

Ying-Lan: ^It is boring for non-commercial person.

Vance: A lot of what we have to do to make a living is boring to people who don't get paid to know it.

Ying-Lan: ^If you want to understand what is it, you may try the web site :

Ying-Lan: ^it is wrong.

Ying-Lan: ^the correct one is

Vance: OK, having a look ...

Ying-Lan: ^But I recommend that if you have time, Try to listen the speech of Mr. Thurow.

Vance: Ok, the url is in the logs.

Ying-Lan: ^

Vance: two times

Ying-Lan: ^It is talking about the knowledge economics.

Ying-Lan: ^I can not understand what he said in English.. but I read it in Chinese.

Vance: I can't listen now because I'm at home near the balcony where I drink the beer

Ying-Lan: ^Relax?

Maggi: :-)

Maggi: still in mourning?

Vance: At work, I have a computer with a sound card on my desk. At home I have one in another room, and I'm using the internet connection.

Ying-Lan: ^I understood it.

Vance: Yes, relaxing. And mourning. So sad, sad, sad, about the king (and about the bars being closed).

Maggi: :-)

Vance: :-)

Ying-Lan: ^Is he is a good leader?

Ying-Lan: ^Is he a good leader?

Vance: I was talking with YL about that earlier. Yes, think he was a good leader, despite the fact that a lot of his people are still impoverished.

Vance: When I was in Morocco, he had a wall built around a particularly bad place because it could be seen by tourists on their way to the beach.

Maggi: Felix should be coming soon...

Felix: @64,64 !It's Felix

Vance: Hi Felix.

Felix: Hi there

Maggi: Speak of the devil..:-)

Maggi: Hi Felix..

Felix: ...he shows up.. hehehe

Felix: Hi Mad

Felix: Hi Vance

Felix: Hi Ying

Felix: Hi Felix

Maggi: Hi Felix.

Felix: LOL

Vance: What's funny?

Maggi: You sent me an email in Portuguese...some of it was really funny.

Ying-Lan: ^he is gone.

Felix: @64,64 !It's Felix

Vance: I'm not able to read Portuguese well enough to understand the humor, or maybe I'm not trying.

Felix: Sorry to send you Portuguese messages, but I can`t help it....

Ying-Lan: ^Felix, I delet the email.. I can not read it.

Maggi: I know...seems Iīm on your list...:-)

Felix: I use ICQ E_mail.. and then I choose Entire Group... That's why sometimes you get Portuguese messages.

Ying-Lan: ^Felix, I deleted the email.. I can not read it.

Felix: ok Ying...

Felix: No problem

Ying-Lan: I am sorry.

Vance: It's ok. I can delete very quickly.

Vance: So what's up in Brazil?

Felix: I am the one to be sorry..... I shouldn`t send you portuguese messages.. But my Brazilian`s pals say the same when I send English messages. hehe

Maggi: I try to read it...good practice...

Felix: Yesterday we beat German in a soccer math

Vance: Are Brazilians good at math?

Felix: match

Felix: oops

Vance: kidding

Maggi: I think he meant match...

Felix: Of course we are.. We studied Geography a lot.. LOL

Vance: I've got to decide where to go on my vacation?

Felix: Brazil?

Maggi: <<<<how long do you have?

Felix: When is your vacation month?

Vance: Alitalia has special fares to Brazil.

Felix: Who/What is Alitalia?

Vance: Also, Ewa Airlines has great fares to the West Coast, and I may go to Vancouver next March.

Ying-Lan: ^Vancouver.. I love it.

Felix: Vancouver.. I went there once... in my dreams..

Vance: Ewa Air is based in Taipei, isn't it?

Ying-Lan: EVA

Ying-Lan: ^EVA air line.

Vance: EVA, that's it.

Ying-Lan: ^It is a new company ...

Vance: I don't really have any month to take a vacation. I just have to pick one.

Felix: Vance are you traveling alone or with you family?

Vance: My family is traveling now. Bobbi and Dusty leave Monday for Milan, Houston, and San Francisco.

Felix: oh!!!

Maggi: Vancouver is beautiful

Vance: Glenn is here in Abu Dhabi. He leaves for Milan on August 8.

Ying-Lan: ^OH,

Felix: I hope I had money to travel abroad

Vance: Yeah, I've been to Vancouver twice already. It is a nice place.

Felix: I wish

Maggi: so the boys will be alone for awile

Felix: Have you been to Mars Vance?

Ying-Lan: ^I hope I will be there next year.

Maggi: <<<i wo

Vance: In jobs like the one I have, my employer gives me money for repatriation, but I have to show them a ticket first.

Felix: Vance is the kind of guy who knows almost everywhere on the globe.

Maggi: oops...I would love to go to Mars..:-)

Felix: Maggi, there's a shuttle heading there next month.. hehe

Maggi: I would be the first one onit!

Ying-Lan: ^To go to camp in Rocky Mountain.. I hope.

Vance: For me, there's a conference in Vancouver, but I also want to go skiing at Whistler.

Felix: Vance if you choose Brazil, you know where you can stay..

Vance: I've been thinking about it, about Brazil. When's the best time to come?

Ying-Lan: ^There are some tour about it.. Vance, Ski in March?

Vance: You can ski at Whistler in July, I hear.

Felix: in the summer..

Felix: January, February

Maggi: Glacier skiing in Austria too.

Vance: It has some snow all year round.

Vance: Yeah, a glacier.

Ying-Lan: ^I have been here in September... I could not ski..

Vance: In Vancouver? Or Taipei?

Ying-Lan: ^at Whistler.

Felix: Hey, I had American visitors here last weekend.

Vance: Oh, you were at Whistler and there was no skiiing? Maybe it's at the resort one over, but I can't remember its name.

Vance: How did that go, Felix?

Ying-Lan: ^There are some beautiful lakes. I have been the top of mountains... It was snowing .. but only few snow..

Vance: Did you manage to keep them sober?

Vance: That sounds nice, YL. You should write it up for your web page.

Maggi: a little snow

Ying-Lan: ^a little snow.

Felix: Very good.. They are great ppl..

Felix: well,,,, I tried too

Felix: I tried to

Vance: What did you do together?

Ying-Lan: ^who is you? vance.

Felix: We went to Porto Seguro and to another beach

Vance: you = Felix and his guests from America

Ying-Lan: sorry

Maggi: plural you Yyying

Felix: I think they liked the sights here

Ying-Lan: ^"Who is you?'" The noun is who not you.. right?

Vance: I would be interested to go there and try the diving.

Michael C: @64,64 !It's Michael C

Vance: who are you

Maggi: Yying...I will ask this student of mine where she is going in Taiwan...

Ying-Lan: who are you...

Felix: We have good places for diving here Vance.. I live close the shore you know

Michael C: Hello everyone.

Ying-Lan: ^How long she will stay here?

Felix: Hi Mr. Michael

Vance: or, who is "you" in that sentence. Is that what you meant?

Vance: Hi MC

Ying-Lan: hi, Mc

Maggi: Hi Michael...

Maggi: I donīt know...I have the first class on Tuesday with her.

Felix: wife`s lecture time now...

Felix: heheh

Felix: which whom Maggi?

Maggi: have you been a bad boy Felix?!

Vance: Do you mean it's time for you to give her her lecture?

Ying-Lan: ^Maggi, why does she go to Taiwan? For Business?

Felix: nope... I just forgot a porno videotape in the VCR and the kids were playing it thinking it was their cartoon tape.. oops!!

Felix: nope. I am getting the lecture Vance

Maggi: yes, the company Merck is sending her there for a project.

Michael C: So you should!

Ying-Lan: Merck...

Felix: What do you mean Michael? I didnt understand

Maggi: you should get an earful GFelix...:-)

Michael C: I mean for that you should get a lecture!

Felix: oh!! That's why I just listened and didnt say any word in reply

Felix: but she's over now..!! PHEW!!!

Vance: What's really bad is if you go to watch your porno tape and you get a cartoon instead! Yuk!

Felix: LOL

Michael C: lol

Maggi: :-)

Maggi: Wwhere are you in Taiwan Ying?

Felix: Guys, dont think I am a perverted guy ok?

Vance: Sounds normal to me.

Maggi: us?

Michael C: It's hard Felix but I'll try.

Felix: ok. Michael.. get your brains to work now...... and try.. (Just kidding)(

Ying-Lan: ^I live at Feng Yuan, which is a small town near Taichung. It locate at the middle of Taiwan Island.

Michael C: I'm trying......

Ying-Lan: ^I live at Feng Yuan, which is a small town near Taichung. It locates at the middle of Taiwan Island.

Maggi: I will ask her where she is going.

Michael C: .....still trying.....

Vance: Taichung is where there's a mountain and a national park, right?

Felix: Watch out!! or you`ll blow it..

Ying-Lan: Let me know by email, right.

Michael C: OK. I'll stop trying for now!

Ying-Lan: ^We have four national park in Taiwan.

Maggi: would be can both practice English then.

Ying-Lan: ^We have four national parks in Taiwan.

Felix: We have nice national parks in Brazil too. I like about 15 minutes off one

Vance: I think I spent the night near there on a trip to Taiwan. If I'm correct, it was mountainous and natural.

Felix: Vance tell me where haven't you been to?

Ying-Lan: ^It is destroyed by......, but I think it is still beautiful...

Vance: What kind of park is it, Felix? Game, camping, hiking?

Ying-Lan: ^maggi, it is very hot in Taiwan now.

Felix: almost of them are camping and hiking.

Vance: mountainous?

Maggi: It is hot again here too!

Felix: The one it's close to me... It's mountainous.. and you can see the see from the top of the hill

Felix: see the sea

Ying-Lan: ^We feel uncomfortable because of the Humidity.

Maggi: same here Ying!

Felix: I am used to the heat!!! Although I hate saunas.

Vance: Sounds very nice. Weather report from Abu dhabi, about 45 degrees and twice as humid.

Ying-Lan: 45?

Felix: Celsius?

Ying-Lan: ^Waaaa...

Maggi: where is the humidity coming from?

Michael C: Adelaide: 16 degrees and mild.

Vance: Celcius. Humidity from the sea. Abu Dhabi is on an island.

Maggi: iīm going down under.

Felix: here...... 35 and mild

Maggi: and you call that winter?!

Michael C: Yep - great isn't it. It never gets really cold here.

Felix: Winter where I am it gets around 19-25 degrees

Vance: It's like that here in the winter. 9 months of the year this is a great place to be outdoors.

Maggi: you never learn to appreciate it need a contrast.

Felix: In Brazil we can be outdoors all year long.

Ying-Lan: contrast?

Vance: When the summer ends, we appreciate the contrast, believe me.

Michael C: Vance - just checked the world map- we're at very similar latitudes.

Maggi: how can you enjoy beautiful warm weather if you donīt know what it means to be cold.

Vance: Contrast = difference

Vance: We enjoy mild weather through understanding of what it is to be HOT.

Ying-Lan: ^Mr. Thurow just contrasted the Economics of USA and Europe's.

Maggi: how boring ...

Felix: When it's cold, it gets us stucked at home....

Maggi: you donīt know what really cold is Felix.

Vance: Correct, YL, or he compared them. There would be a subtle difference, but both quite correct.

Felix: i really don`t......

Maggi: go to Alaska or Norway.

Ying-Lan: sorry

Felix: Wanna Kill me?

Maggi: A friend there just said it was only 5C yesterday.

Maggi: of course not...

Maggi: good for your heart!

Felix: It sounds so

Michael C: Summer and 5 degrees. Yuk.

Vance: I was in Nepal a 18 months ago, 5000 meters, 30 below, celcius.

Felix: Summer???

Vance: New York last March was worse.

Maggi: well...but when we had only 10C here they had 20C...

Vance: I guess I get contrast by getting on a plane.

Maggi: watch it in a plane

Michael C: Yes it can be quite cold on planes!

Maggi: I read how they control the climate on a plane

Vance: hmmmm

Felix: I've never been on a place

Maggi: to relieve the staff

Felix: plane

Maggi: I know...

Vance: never been on a plane? Really?

Michael C: Really Felix?

Maggi: I worked a few flights...

Felix: yep

Maggi: take a boat then Felix...

Michael C: You have a big thrill waiting for you.

Felix: i'd rather take a

Vance: Poor Felix.

Maggi: not really

Maggi: I know some others who havenīt flown

Vance: Is that normal for people where you live? I mean, is it unusual for people there to go far from their province?

Felix: Michael.... Do you have a place in Adelaide where I can take a month course or something for free or for a small money?

Maggi: for most of the world Vance it is unusal to fly somewhere.

Felix: no, it's not normal.. I am the exception

Maggi: No offense....

Michael C: A month course in what Felix?

Felix: in Greek... LOL

Maggi: :-)

Felix: In English, Michael

Michael C: Possible - lots of Greeks here.

Felix: seriosly now.... in english

Felix: is there?

Michael C: All Enlish courses for foreigners are incredibly expensive.

Ying-Lan: ^Micheal c.. he said "It is a free course .

Vance: Felix, how far away from home have you traveled?

Felix: hmmmm 16 hours...

Michael C: But I could give you a course for very cheap rates!

Ying-Lan: ^Fee = you don't need to pay the bill.

Felix: and give me accomodations too?

Ying-Lan: ^I don't think it is free.

Vance: fee = the bill; free = you don't have to pay

Felix: dont your have public school there?

Maggi: you are too old for that Felix!

Felix: dont you have public schools there?

Michael C: I could probably arrange some accomodation.

Vance: Where did you go when you traveled 16 hours?

Ying-Lan: ^We can not go publich school..

Felix: To Rio de Janeiro

Maggi: Carnival?

Felix: in Brazil, to travel by plane is very expensive

Felix: nope at Carnival... in the summer

Ying-Lan: ^It is expensive to travel by plane in the world.

Michael C: We do have adult public schools but they would also be expensive. if you are a resident then English courses are rreally cheap.

Ying-Lan: ^But we are non-resident..

Felix: Michael.. seriously.. Can you see what you can get for me in Adelaide?

Michael C: That's right Ying.

Michael C: Felix - the fees are HUGE!

Felix: I see

Michael C: $7-8 dollars/hour

Felix: WOW!!!!

Ying-Lan: ^It is cheap...

Maggi: hmmm...even higher here.

Felix: cheap??? It's a theft Ying

Ying-Lan: ^But There are some charge needed to pay.

Michael C: About $500 for 4 weeks.

Maggi: thatīs cheap

Michael C: But that's about $300 US.

Felix: 500 dollars.. not that expensive

Ying-Lan: ^Including the fee of home stay?

Ying-Lan: ^A$500 or US$500?

Michael C: No Ying - that's just course fees.

Felix: 300 USA dollars.... I can manage that

Maggi: It is cheap compared to here.

Vance: Hey, guys, my son Dusty is here. Do you want to say hi to him?

Felix: and how much can I get in accomodations?

Maggi: <<hi Dusty..

Ying-Lan: ^Hi, Dusty.

Michael C: A$500 = US$300 approx.

Felix: Hi Dusty!!!!

Michael C: Hello Dusty.

Vance: Ok, as you were ...

Michael C: What's Vance like as a father Dusty?

Ying-Lan: ^Dusty, I envy you. Because you are so young .. you have a lot of opportunity to learn the world.

Maggi: doesnīt he get to say something?

Felix: Maggi, the father is around.

Ying-Lan: ^Dusty, I envy you. Because you are so young .. you have a lot of opportunities to learn the world.

Maggi: so?

Dusty: Hello, I'm Dusty.

Felix: How old are you Dusty?

Michael C: You look just like your Dad!

Ying-Lan: ^:-)

Dusty: I'm 14 yrs.

Felix: LOL@Michael

Maggi: Hi...ok...tell us what it is like to study in the US after living abroad?

Vance: (wrong son, Maggi)

Maggi: oopps sorry I have the wrong son...

Maggi: ok mine is 16...

Dusty: thats ok.

Maggi: I bet you guys would have a ball together...

Dusty: where does your son go to school?

Maggi: well...

Maggi: he just finished the 10th

Maggi: and I am taking him out of school.

Michael C: And....?

Ying-Lan: ^maggi, your son goes to the public shool in German, does he?

Maggi: yes...well I live in a St

Ying-Lan: ^maggi, your son goes to the public shool in German, doesn't he?

Felix: public schools in brazil are a shit

Maggi: oops...state where he has to go to school until 18

Michael C: Is that a legal requirement Maggi?

Maggi: so he will go to a trade school

Ying-Lan: trade school?

Maggi: yes it is and it stinks...I just live in the wrong state.

Maggi: trade school is where you leanr a prog

Ying-Lan: ^Will he go back to U.S.A. to stuy University?

Michael C: They are thinking of doing something similar here.

Maggi: eee...learn a profession Ying

Michael C: Too many young unemployed ......

Maggi: I will prepare him to go to University in the US

Maggi: It will cost me though

Maggi: Here it is free.

Dusty: OK, people. I got to go.

Dusty: Heres vance.

Ying-Lan: ^But Your son is an American.. is it not free to go to University in USA?

Maggi: have fun Dusty...

Vance: Hi, Vance back again.

Michael C: See ya Dusty

Maggi: University is not free in the US Yying.

Ying-Lan: ^Is it expensive?

Maggi: yes...

Ying-Lan: I was wrong,,, I thought it is free in USA.

Vance: We had this problem. My kids grew up in Oman. So we went back to the states for 2 years just to establish residency in California. That's why my oldest son can afford to go to school there.

Vance: And it's not free, just less expensive if you are a resident.

Michael C: University was free here but no more.

Maggi: it is a problem living overseas

Vance: But can't your son go to school in Germany?

Ying-Lan: ^Vance, but your family are American.

Maggi: they go to school forever here

Maggi: He has to until 18

Ying-Lan: ^Why you needed to spend 2 years to get the qualify?

Ying-Lan: ^Why did you need to spend 2 years to get the qualify?

Vance: In the USA, the universities are STATE universities. So you have to be a resident of a certain state.

Maggi: So...we are looking for the right Berufsschule that he is interested in.

Ying-Lan: I got it.

Maggi: I have enough family spread around to cover residenc requirements.

Vance: Yeah, it costs the same for me as it does for you to go to school in the USA if I'm not a resident of that state.

Michael C: What happened to Felix?

Maggi: residents are cheaper...

Felix: @64,64 !It's Felix

Felix: it's ok now

Ying-Lan: ^Felix, connection problem?

Felix: nope... illegal operation with the palace.. I had to reboot puter

Maggi: puter sounds funny to me...

Maggi: Pute is a tzu

Ying-Lan: ^puter?

Felix: why maggi?

Michael C: And a tzu is?

Maggi: Pute is a turkey in German

Vance: Dusty used to call it a putywaiter. We still call it that around my house.

Felix: oh

Maggi: slip of the fingers Michael...

Michael C: Why puterwaiter Vance?

Michael C: ..putywaiter?

Maggi: thatīs cute...I like it...:-)

Maggi: you always have to wait Mihael...

Ying-Lan: ^What is "puter"? I can not find it in Dictionary.

Michael C: lol!

Maggi: it is computer Yying

Felix: puter is shorthen for for computer

Maggi: just shortened

Felix: form for

Ying-Lan: shroten

Felix: like coakroach or roach

Michael C: Good exaample Felix.

Maggi: short form for computer

Vance: just kids talk. Guys, I gotta run. Glenn is back and Bobbi is trying to get us all out for a walk (in this heat; she's nuts)

Michael C: Or bot for robot.

Ying-Lan: nuts?

Maggi: really Vance...

Michael C: What time is it there Vance?

Vance: nuts = crazy (with the heat, probably)

Felix: Have a nice walk Vance.

Maggi: Itg

Ying-Lan: o.k.

Felix: itg????

Maggi: will keep yopu thin

Vance: It's 5:15, and at least 45 out.

Maggi: juk!

Maggi: and I though 35 here was bad!

Michael C: Yep - that's nice. Mad dogs and Englishmen and American expats.

Michael C: I meant that's nuts.

Felix: expats??

Maggi: Aare you the mad dog then?

Maggi: expatriats

Ying-Lan: ^Felix , try to visit the web site. , to listen the speech of Mr. Thurow.

Michael C: expats = expatriates

Felix: still dont understand

Maggi: means someone who lives outside of their native country.

Felix: oh Ying I will

Michael C: People who live outside their home country. Maggi is also an expat.

Felix: oh ok

Ying-Lan: sorry, I mentioned it three times.

Felix: Ying can you teach me how you put the song on your home page?

Vance: I like being an expat

Michael C: Enjoy your blistering walk Vance.

Felix: I would like to be an expat

Vance: Trying to get rid of me?

Michael C: Nooooo

Vance: (I'm trying to put off going for a walk)

Michael C: Good plan.

Maggi: so how can we delay this agony Vance<?

Michael C: Wait till the sun goes down.

Ying-Lan: ^Just use the G2... Have you seen the button of "Create web site"?

Felix: Give her your credit card Vance.. IT will work

Felix: Real Producer?

Maggi: Where could she use it on a walk?

Vance: Felix, see my instructions at

Ying-Lan: ^yest.

Michael C: Ying - can you do that with the free G2?

Ying-Lan: ^Yes, I did it by free G2.

Felix: she would go shopping instead Maggi

Michael C: Ok. Maybe I'll try it one many things to learn.

Maggi: not in the UAE and she is not that sort of woman Felix.

Ying-Lan: ^But it is important to change the name of file int *.rm after you creat the web site by G2.

Felix: how can you tell Maggi?

Maggi: I am not that sort of woman.

Maggi: I can tell.

Vance: No shopping in the UAE? Are you guys talking about shoppers?

Michael C: OK Ying. I'll remember that.

Michael C: I'm not - I hate shopping.

Felix: i like to buy things

Maggi: Yes...Felix seems to think you can get rid of Bobbi by giving her your credit card and she goes shopping.

Vance: Bobbi isn't an ostentatious consumer, if that's what you mean.

Felix: ohh

Ying-Lan: ^I don't know why but you can not listent it.. ... like on webheads

Michael C: I like to buy not shop! Walk in, pay the money and walk out!

Ying-Lan: ^If you can not change the file name from *.rpm into *.rm.

Maggi: I donīt like shopping either.

Vance: No, she would be happy to walk by herself, but she's leaving tomorrow and is trying to organize the family for a walk.

Maggi: canīt she organize a l

Michael C: I have never understoold how people enjoy shopping as recreation. Where's Bobbi going?

Vance: She's going to Milan, Houston, San Francisco.

Maggi: layin in the cool in an airconditioned place?

Michael C: Business or pleasure?

Ying-Lan: pleasure..

Ying-Lan: ^michaelc, when will you go to Vietnam?

Michael C: I see (maybe you guys talked about this earlier)

Maggi: not really

Michael C: Vietnam is off until maybe December and I'm glad because I have enough to do here.

Vance: Are you off for Vietnam Michael?

Ying-Lan: ^I guess, she goes to USA for plearsure.

Ying-Lan: I see.

Michael C: I was supposed to go in August but it has been postponed.

Vance: She is going to the USA to see her mom and to help Glenn move from San Jose to San Francisco

Vance: Was this for work, MC?

Michael C: "Do you know the way to San Jose?"

Maggi: Iīve lived in both places.

Michael C: It was for work Vance.

Ying-Lan: ^San Jose is the top of Silcom Valley, isn't it?

Maggi: He will like SF better.

Michael C: Doing some training of Viet. teachers. They want to offer Aust.. curriculum there.

Maggi: south of SSF Ying.

Maggi: SSF

Vance: Right, YL. At the bottom actually. And right, he hates San Jose since he doesn't have a car.

Maggi: San Franciso

Felix: maybe his father can grant him one

Maggi: the public transport there is goo.

Michael C: "I've been away from peace of in San Jose" (old song)

Maggi: good

Ying-Lan: ^Does he work?

Vance: no way ... actually, we had a car he could have had, but he couldn't afford the insurance.

Michael C: "peace of mind in San Jose"

Maggi: it isnīt the same as it used to be Michael

Vance: He's going to school in San Francisco. Do you guys hear someone singing?

Maggi: Michael is singing...nice, eh?=

Michael C: I was just San Jose so nice that ot gives peace of mind? Or used to?

Maggi: it used to..

Ying-Lan: got it.

Vance: I thought he was. San Jose is could be a very pleasant place, but it is TOO built up now.

Michael C: What happened? Got it...

Maggi: there are no more orchardws.

Ying-Lan: ^San Jose is an important city of USA now... there are a lot of computer companies.

Maggi: it is just people on people to the hills...track after track of houses that look like Daly City.

Vance: It's crazy traffic, neon signs, depressing city noise, swooshing of cars all the time (I went there to work in a computer company)

Ying-Lan: ^The New Economics of USA has been built there.

Maggi: the only thing yop

Maggi: you can do is make money

Michael C: Well I always feel like a rat coming last and leaving first but I gotta lot qork to do.......

Ying-Lan: ^qork?

Michael C: lotta work to do..

Vance: It's a very stimulating place to be. Lots going on there in the way of Internet, computers.

Maggi: I have some major cleaning to do...

Michael C: So I gotta go. Take it easy all.

Maggi: driving the spiders nuts

Vance: .. she says as spiders dangle almost to the keyboard ...

Maggi: hey a few have walked by

Ying-Lan: spider?

Maggi: by Michael

Vance: OK. Bobbi is making serious walking motions.

Maggi: those things with eight legs Ying

Ying-Lan: Vance, have a nice walk.

Maggi: Go Vance before you get a lecture...Felix must be getting another one

Vance: Hey, btw, your web page is great YL. Ruth Vilmi was very interested in your concordance page.

Vance: Do you know Ruth Vilmi, Maggi?

Maggi: Yes, I do.

Ying-Lan: It is still be builting...

Vance: Well, Ruth will have seen it by now.

Ying-Lan: ^ I have not finished it.

Vance: Oh, she asked, what concordancer did you use?

Maggi: Ruth is sharp

Ying-Lan: ^You told me the one... I think it is in Hong Kong.

Maggi: I have to go too...bye4 guys...

Ying-Lan: bye-bye.

Maggi: :-)

Vance: So you used the online one. OK, buy Maggi. I'll be in touch.

Ying-Lan: It is on line...

Vance: Yeah, I know the one. So did you copy the output and paste it in a document?

Ying-Lan: ^Yes, I did it.

Vance: It's great YL. And I also think your English has improved a lot since you started this class.

Ying-Lan: ^just search and paste it

Ying-Lan: ^Really, Thanks for your help.

Vance: It's wonderful having students like yourself.

Ying-Lan: ^It is great to meet you.

Vance: So, if you want me to record something for you, just send me what you want me to say in an email.

Ying-Lan: ^I learn so much becaure of you.

Ying-Lan: ^O.K. I will let you know.

Vance: No problem.

Vance: So, I'm off now. See you later. Have a nice evening.

Ying-Lan: Have a nice day.

Ying-Lan: bye

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