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I promised to censor this but in the end didn't. I don't really believe in censorship, nor in suppression of "live" language data, and who's gonna read this anyway?
Connecting to efi.virtualscholar.com:9998
Connected via TCP
*** Welcome to The Virtual School House Vance!
Vance: @64,64 !It's Vance
(Vance goes away from the computer; meanwhile Felix arrives and finds Vance's avatar, but no Vance)
Felix: @64,64 !It's Felix
Felix: Hi vance
Felix: Hi Felix How are you ??
Felix: I am fine and you ?
Felix: What are you doing here ??
Felix: Well, I am waiting for my teacher...
Felix: Hi Vance
Vance: Uh, who gave you the avatar? (Felix is wearing an "unusual" avatar today.)
Felix: no one.. I was looking around the rooms and foun it
Felix: I think so.. and funny too
Vance: Is that how you feel being married to the police?
Felix: quite that
Felix: My wife is a nice girl... I dont know how she can stand me.. ROFL
Vance: Yeah, same for my poor wife
Felix: i have a temper Vance.... And she deals with it very well.
Vance: It looks like she knows what to do with you when you show your temper.
Felix: yeah... She learned the lesson.. ROFL
Vance: What's ROFL?
Felix: rolling out on the floor laughing
Vance: I put some more slides up at http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/4631/efi/ott
Vance: Have you had a look?
Felix: i am looking at it now
Vance: Does it take too long for each slide to load?
Vance: Does it look easy to follow?
Vance: This is the "lecture" that MAD asked me to give. Do you remember?
Felix: i think know it will be easy to create a hp
Vance: So now I'm better prepared for the next course. Next time I do this I'll present it as a course where each student does his or her own web page.
Felix: where ? in real life ?
Vance: What's that? (just kidding)
Vance: No, I mean here at the Palace.
Felix: oh ok
Felix: what is what ?????????????????
Vance: What's real life? (it's a joke)
Vance: I guess what we're doing now is real life.
Felix: yes it it.. I dont like the term "virtual" sometimes.. It sounds we are a screen, a machine.. understand ?
Vance: Yeah, it's a new way of communication, safer than meeting in bars.
Felix: at least we can't see glass flying over our heads.. haha
Vance: One thing that I would like to know is what motivates people to come to classes like this.
Felix: well, I am a "freak" at/on/in English .... (Damn.. prepositions is a pain in my ass)
Felix: are a pain
Vance: I do this because I'm curious about a new way of teaching, I'm interested in the technology
Vance: A freak for English?
Vance: A freak about English.
Vance: A freak over English ... I don't know the correct preposition either.
Felix: prepositions are quite difficult, aren't they ?
Vance: I find them easy in English but impossible in French or Spanish.
Felix: Because english is your native language.. That's the point...
Vance: That's what I meant too
Vance: I guess to learn them you have to read a lot.
Felix: your slides are hmmmmmm so explained...
Vance: Or you talk to people, try to get a "feel" for the language.
Felix: I read a lot.. But I am really interested more in spoken than in written..
Vance: To participate in a chat like this you have to be able to write well too.
Vance: You must be pretty advanced with English. You seem to be using this to improve fluency.
Vance: Some people can't cope with it though.
Felix: yeah.. But when you speak and you read a lot as well.. You realize when something was wrong... You feel it
Felix: do you really think I am an advanced ..
Vance: I guess you can never really be a native speaker unless you are one.
Vance: Yes, comprehension is never a problem. You can interact quickly, appropriately.
Vance: no problem, I'm busy here at work.
Vance: I know what you need ...
Felix: i had a girl from my work here.. she is an english teacher too
Vance: So early on a Sunday morning?
Felix: what do I need ??
Vance: A sword. Don't you see it?
Felix: she is my neighbor.. She wanted someone's phone number..
Felix: OH MY MY daughter is with a bottle of beer in her hands.. just a sec
Felix: oh my
Felix: my hair is getting gray with a couple of kids.. Imagine when the third comes...
Felix: They will really tight me up the same way as in my avatar.. haha
Felix: Vance. you if are busy i understand.. you can go
alex: @64,64 !It's alex
Felix: Hi Alex
Vance: Hello Alex. Excuse my friend here.
alex: hi all
Vance: Sorry F, there was a teacher here talking to me
Vance: So Alex, what brings you here?
Felix: No problem Vance.
alex: where is teacher now?
Vance: I am the teacher in this class.
Vance: Are you the Alex from Russia that we met here some months ago?
alex: i 'm glad to see you ,i" mfrom russia
Vance: I think you were here before, weren't you? Or maybe we met on ICQ
Felix: How old are you Alex ? do you mind if I ask you that /
Vance: About your age F?
Felix: oh ok
Felix: i am 26
Vance: I'm 50 (whew)
Vance: But it's ok cause I act half that
alex: what can student to do in lesson?
Vance: Well, I have a plan for the class which is at http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/4631/efi/webheads.htm
Vance: Some students have done a little bit with their web pages.
* alex * can you help me to improve my english? what way?
Vance: Felix is one of the students. We meet together to talk here on Sundays ...
Vance: and if you want to work during the week you can write and I can correct your work.
Vance: My idea for the class is to help students make web pages which they put at Geocities on the www.
Vance: That was students can communicate with each other and with the world at large.
Vance: Are you interested in that?
* alex * yes
Vance: Have you seen the web page at http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/4631/efi/webheads.htm ??
* alex * i want to work during the week
Felix: Are you there alex ?
Vance: Alex, you're whispering
* alex * no yet
Vance: Did you do that on purpose?
Vance: If you touch my avatar you can speak so that Felix can here.
Vance: can hear ...
alex: yes i need to improve my english,
Vance: Felix is from Brazil, by the way.
Vance: You are welcome in the class.
alex: where are you from?
Vance: Are you able to look at the web page now?
Vance: I'm from the USA, but I live in Abu Dhabi.
alex: i try now
Felix: Vznce i didnt understand what you meant in one of your slides..."Click here if you've set your html code to lower case file names.
Vance: Alex, Felix is looking at http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/4631/efi/ott
Vance: That's difficult to explain. I'll try.
Vance: When you prepare html, depending on what editor you use, you might browse for a file to link to.
Vance: That file name gets written in the code of the html document.
Vance: When you upload your files, if you change the case of just one letter, the link won't work.
Felix: so. it;s not the "page' but only some html codes right ?
Vance: So a good way to work is to keep everything in lower case.
Felix: i will try
Felix: if i have any problem i will e-mail you
Vance: It's the code in the page, that you normally don't see if you work with a drag and drop editor.
Vance: So you're going to give it a try?
Felix: Mad is coming
alex: do you have icq? can you send me url
Vance: Great. Alex, I've been trying to get my students to make home pages, and I just put up instructions on how to do it.
Maggi: @64,64 !It's Maggi
Vance: Yes, I'm icq user 2774215
Felix: Hi Maggi
Felix: Mad ??
Michael C: @64,64 !It's Michael C
Felix: Hi Michael
Vance: Hi MAD (Alex, this is MAD, or Margaret, or Maggie, another teacher)
Vance: And Michael C is also another teacher.
Maggi: Can I add you to my list Vance?
Michael C: Evening everybody!
Vance: MAD is in Germany, and Michael is in Australia.
Vance: Please do.
Vance: Alex just joined us from Russia.
Michael C: You're looking comfortable tonight Felix...
Felix: Maggi.. Help me !!! See what Vance did to me !! Only because I was talking so much !!!! Bad teacher uh ?!!
Vance: He's joking. His wife did that to him last night.
Michael C: Nice to meet you Alex.
Michael C: Pour that beer down his throat someone!
Vance: Alex, do you have a log window open?
Felix: Only because i wanted to fool around.... Can you image that Michael ??
Michael C: Imagine you fooling around? Do I want to really?
Vance: OK. You probably have those urls in the log window. What's your ICQ number?
Maggi: Shame on you felix
Michael C: Would you like to imagine me fooling around?!
Felix: Hey.. fool around doesnt mean going to sex Mad... I meant... going out and drink with some "friends" hehe
Felix: Fool around is a conotation for sex ?????
Maggi: I didn't say that Felix...but now I know what you were thinking...
Michael C: A EUPHEMISM for having sex.
Michael C: Now you know!
Maggi: Fell into another one Felix :-)
Felix: No Mad.. i asked that because every time I say "fool around" ppl think on sex..
Michael C: Of course they do!
Maggi: Only natural...LOL
Michael C: So do you fool around with your wife in that position Felix?
Felix: ok I will rewrite my sentence.. I wanted to fool around with no sex involved and my wife did that.. Is that better ?? HAHAHA
Felix: *blushing* Michael ROFL
Michael C: Don't answer that!
Vance: You'll have to excuse these people Alex.
Michael C: How's the diving Vance?
Felix: Today the class is VERY GoODDDDDDDDD.. I hate formal ones..
Maggi: This is getting interesting...and I am the only female here...hmmm
Vance: I was on an Arab dhow all weekend diving off Musandam, Great!
Michael C: Sounds fantastic.
Felix: vance can you do me a favor ??
Maggi: We had snow all weekend!
Michael C: And I'm sunburnt!
Felix: DO NOT POST this log ok??????????? I will embarrass us.. ROFL
Maggi: not enough for that...
Felix: here is scouring hot..
Michael C: No. This log should definitely be posted!
Maggi: Watch that ozone hole Michael...
Vance: Felix. I'll censor the log.
Michael C: I know MAD. I got burnt in the shade today.
Felix: I have to use sunscreen protection # 30 when I got out in the sun on the beach.
Michael C: AW c'mon Vance!
Maggi: Then it is really bad...
Felix: ok Vance..
Michael C: I think so - yes.
Maggi: Alex...how much snow have you got?
Felix: *thinking about showing you my avatars* ROFLMAO
Maggi: don't do that Felix!!
Felix: i am just kidding Mad
Felix: i am in a wonderful mood today
Michael C: It must be the ropes.
* alex * i'll read it later(url)now -speaking
Maggi: We should have you tied up more often Felix!
Felix: Hey Alex.. Let me grab your Santa Avatar
Maggi: He's cute...
Felix: you have to put the pieces in the floor Alex
Felix: thanks Alex
Michael C: @64,64 !It's Michael C
Maggi: Hi again Michael...
Michael C: Did I miss anything?
Maggi: Not yet
Felix: hi again and again michael
* alex * do i have all information about week studing for me in url,which you gave me?
Michael C: Are we still talking about sex?
Maggi: the bird...
Michael C: ...and the bees!
* Vance * Yeah. You have the url, and the information about my class is there.
Maggi: pooh bear has the bees
Felix: Hey MAd.. show your mermaid.. It's very nice
Michael C: Sounds interesting...
* Vance * There are two classes here. Mine was earlier and is over now.
* Vance * Michael's has just started.
* Vance * Mine begins at 11:30 gmt.
Maggi: I am not sure it is appropriate...
Michael C: !!!!!
Maggi: well, she is dressed...
Felix: of course it it..it's a nice avatar
Felix: it is
* Vance * But it's ok. The students who study here go to any class they like.
* Vance * MAD and Michael are both English teachers, and Felix has high level English.
* Vance * So they talk a lot very quickly. Even I don't follow it all.
* alex * thank you,becous i try to study english ,but don't know what way
Michael C: Looks just like you MAD.
Maggi: clicked on the wrong place
* Vance * You are welcome here. You can see my list of students on my web page.
Maggi: well, except that I am not blond
* alex * i meaned with efi
Michael C: Of course!
Felix: i would die for that Mermaid. hehe
Maggi: I bet you would!
* Vance * There are two ways. You can come to class and chat.
Michael C: I think you are both inappropriately dressed for class!
* Vance * Or you can email me writing. And if you do that I suggest you work toward putting up a web page.
Michael C: That's slightly better Felix.
Felix: Me too Michael ??
* Vance * I start a web page for each of my students.
Michael C: Much better Maggi. Now who went to church today?
* Vance * So you can start by sending me information about yourself, a picture if you like.
Felix: no one... WHAT A SHAME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
* Vance * And I'll put it on a web page I'll start for you.
Maggi: You must be joking...
Michael C: How do you know?
* alex * ok i'll do it
Felix: just guessing
Maggi: it is too cold
* Vance * My email is email@example.com. That's on the web page.
Michael C: Too cold for church.....that's dreadful MAD.
Felix: Hey What religion is everyone here ??
Felix: what is deadful ??
* Vance * Now they are talking about religion. Should we join them?
Michael C: That's a hard question Felix. (about religion)
Felix: not to discuss only to know the religion of each other..
Michael C: Dreadful = terrible.
Michael C: I'm a Catholic Buddhist!
Felix: uh ????
Maggi: I am not sure what I am...
Michael C: Told you it was a hard question....
alex: ok ,i 'm going to move to canada and i have an interview in english,so i need to study english
Michael C: Is Canada a religion?
Felix: never head of Buddhist and a Catholic together..
Vance: I am a christian but except for trying to be a good person I don't practice any rituals
Maggi: Good luck Alex...
Vance: Yeah, Alex. What part of Canada?
Michael C: I'm the only one on the planet!
Felix: I used to be Baptist.. But I dont have any religion now.
Felix: ohhhhhhhhh I understand now... You follow the best you can take from both religions right ?
alex: I am a christian,too
Maggi: Is that left over from bei9ng a hippie Michael?
Michael C: That's it exactly Felix.
Vance: Are you a practicing Buddhist, Michael? Or just a Buddhist at heart?
Michael C: I think so. Seems logical to me.
Maggi: I just try to be a good person.
alex: i dont know where in canada yet
Michael C: Just at heart Vance.
Vance: Me too, actually. It's the religion that comes closest to not being one.
Vance: unless you practice it of course ...
Michael C: Maybe that's why it's so appealing!
Michael C: It helps me make sense of the world.
Vance: Sense? The world makes sense?
Felix: in Brazil we have all kinds of religions although the major population is Catholic.. But not at heart.. They just say I am Catholic without at least read the bible etc, etc, etc.
Michael C: Fraid so Vance.
Michael C: Felix - Alex wants to know where you are going in Canada...
Felix: uh ???
Michael C: Are you going to Canada? Or were you joking?
alex: thank you all for chat,i must go away,bye
Vance: Alex is going to Canada.
Felix: not me .. you must be confused Michael.... Alex is going to Canada, not me.
Vance: OK Alex, get in touch by email.
Michael C: Sorry!
Michael C: Goodbye Alex. Come back next week?
alex: i'm glad to meet you all
Maggi: bye Alex
Vance: Nice to meet you too. Send me email and I'll make a web page for you.
alex: yes ,i try to be here every day
Michael C: Good. See you.
Vance: Have you seen the schedule at http://www.study.com/schedule.htm
Vance: or is it html??
Michael C: ...don't remember....
Michael C: Why are some .htm and others .html and does it matter?
alex: i see,but not always teachers were
Felix: I think the schedule must be updated...
Vance: It used to be that html was a Mac designation and htm was a DOS one.
Michael C: So does it matter? I've never actually tested it.
Vance: But then windows allowed more characters in filenames so now a windows machine can create a file called something.html
Vance: And it DOES matter, because if you leave off the l when there is one, your browser won't find the file.
Michael C: Right.
Felix: Michael remember that E-mail you couldnt open.. I deleted it and i will have to do it again.. *crying*
Michael C: Which email Vance?
Vance: Michael, have you had your eyes checked lately? That's Felix about the email.
Vance: You know Felix, the one who's going to Canada.
Michael C: Whoops. I was looking in the log box....
Michael C: Ok Ok!
Michael C: The log window is a little crowded!
Michael C: To read quickly I mean...
Vance: Hey MAD, did you get my message about the new lecture I put up?
Michael C: What's the lecture about?
Felix: Now Mad is going to ask Michel about the E-mail. HAHA
Michael C: Shut up Felix!
Vance: Instructions on how to get an acct at Geocities and upload your files.
Maggi: Sorry...I had some tech problems...
Vance: MAD requested it for an OTT lecture, whatever that is.
Maggi: I planned to do it today...
Maggi: Sorry Vance
Felix: I saw it and it is excellent.. Very easy to follow to instructions.
Maggi: And I still have to reply to your email but the idea is a good one.
Vance: Sorry, my lecture won't do? Too simplistic?
Vance: Just kidding ...
Vance: Anyway, is that the kind of thing you want as a lecture?
Michael C: I think Maggie will accept anything! As long as she doesn't have to do it!
Michael C: Right MAD!
Vance: well, quite ...
Felix: You are impossible today Michael !!!
Michael C: Just kidding.
Vance: MAD, take off those glasses so you can see the screen
Michael C: Good idea Vance!
Maggi: I know Michael personally now...so he can get away with it...:-)
Vance: Must be virtual reality glasses ...
Maggi: Sorry...I am also occupied elsewhere...
Felix: HEY !!!!!!!!!!!! WATCH YOU ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
Michael C: Ah..so you were listening!
Maggi: Of course I was listening...
Felix: The class today is COOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Maggi: I am a woman of many talents...LOL
Vance: way cool
Felix: So informal.. I love that....
Michael C: We demand your full attention.
Vance: class? what class?
Michael C: This class of which I am the teacher!
Michael C: This is *my* class!
Vance: Ah, that's right. I can now be a student in this class.
Michael C: Yep!
Maggi: me too...
Felix: hey i have something to ask you to...
Felix: just a sec
Michael C: So give me an example of a phrasal verb...
Felix: except Mad.. I had already asked her for doing that
Vance: get down?
Felix: FOOL aROUND
Michael C: Good! Now your turn Maggi.
Vance: pop off
Felix: what is pop off ??
Maggi: Hang on a sec...
Michael C: Vance?
Michael C: Pop off = ?
Vance: It can mean to get angry suddenly and say a bunch of things you regret later.
Maggi: the Germans use poppen for something else....lol
Michael C: pop off can also mean die. (very English)
Maggi: No Vance, just poppen
Vance: As in ??
Michael C: Gepoppt = ?
Felix: are these gibberish ????
Michael C: German gibberish.
Felix: Michael and Vance can you take a look at this url now ?
Maggi: Er hat sie gepoppt...catch the drift...?
Michael C: No drift I'm sorry.
Felix: drift ??
Vance: Well, blew me off, dismissed me?
Vance: Hit me? (Popped me one)
Michael C: Or are we back to sex again>?
Vance: I think so, it's the only other connotation.
Felix: Michael and Vance ???? did you see what I begged you two for ?
Vance: No, what?
Maggi: well, blow could be used too
Felix: look at this url now please
Michael C: Yes I saw Felix..hang on
Vance: Monica hat Bill ... ?
Maggi: it's a form...one of many :-)
Felix: Deutsch ist sehr interessant
Maggi: nicht schlect Felix...ich kann dir was anders beibringen...:-)
Michael C: checking URL.....
Felix: Vereinbaren Sie Maggie?
Maggi: Du kannst Du benutzen Felix...
Felix: Dank für das Lassen von mir kennen Maggie
Felix: The technology is amazing
Michael C: So what about this URL Felix?
Maggi: Bitte, bitte...keine Ursache!
Felix: Michael do you have anything prepared like that ? A subject and then lots of questions about it ?
Felix: what is Keine Maggi ??
Michael C: Not really. I usually ask students to read things and write about them.
Vance: Our teachers here are doing lots of work like this, only they use JBC to link it to the web.
Michael C: Use the web as a research library.
Felix: ok.. It you had something like that it would help me a lot in my classes
Michael C: What's JBC?
Felix: didnt understand Vance
Vance: Martin Holmes Half Baked products. You can get a url off my web page. I'll find it for you. JBC is free btw.
Michael C: That Martin Holmes guy is great.
Maggi: keine is no or none
Felix: oh ok
Michael C: Well I'll leave you all to your Germa lesson.
Felix: I was using translator Maggie
Michael C: Time for me to go.
Felix: Come one Michael.. we are onver
Felix: come on
Maggi: I need to blow this joint too!
Michael C: I've really enjoyed tonight.
Michael C: It's midnight here Felix and I have to work tomorrow.
Maggi: bye Michael...sweet dreams...
Vance: It's 5:30 pm here and I need to get home.
Michael C: You can stay and do more German with Maggi.
Felix: Vance am I going to find some stuff like the one i showed you in that url?
Maggi: I have to go too!
Vance: JBC lets you create it.
Michael C: Goodnight all. Till next time.
Felix: ok.. this class was the most enjoyable one i had ever had
Felix: i dont want to create .. I want some prepared..
Michael C: It was because of your avatar!
Vance: Check my web site at http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/4631/esl_home.htm for some leads.
Felix: some waht ?
Vance: Leads = roads to follow
Felix: ohok.. so you really dont know exactly where i can find them right ?
Vance: I particularly like the aitech stuff from Japan, already prepared
Felix: do you remember the url ?
Maggi: bye guys...
Felix: bye maggi
Vance: bye MAD. Let me know if the lectures will do.
Vance: too late
Felix: Vance you said your teachers have some prepared.. Can you e-mail them for me ?
Vance: No, we're not in that position yet. We're trying to organize things so we can do our own web site.
Vance: I just know a lot of this kind of work is being done.
Vance: But check the other url's and look on my web site for lots of "leads"
Felix: oh ok
Felix: let me know when the web site is ready ok?
Vance: It will be a while. We've got a committee working on it.
Felix: ok.. no problem.
Vance: I've got to go. I'm thirsty and tired.
Vance: My wife is waiting with cold beer.
Felix: thanks for spending your time with me..
Vance: My pleasure.
Felix: i have one ice-cold in the freezer now too
Felix: i will give it a taste hmmmmmmmmmmm
Vance: already? Before noon?
Vance: If you want help with your web page, let me know.
Vance: I'll see you next Sunday.
Felix: i will e-mail you if i want any problem
Vance: I'd love to help you set up a web page.
Felix: are you sure the url is right
Felix: the aitech
Vance: which one?
Felix: i cant open it
Felix: it;s opening now,.
Felix: see ya around
Vance: Sorry, I was copying it from another computer
Vance: Ok, see you later.
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