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Ying-Lan: Hi, Vance
Vance: Hi. I went to virtual scholar first.
Ying-Lan: Maggi won't be here today! right?
Ying-Lan: Does it work?
Vance: That's right. I'd almost forgot. She has to move.
Vance: No, the schoolhouse doesn't work.
Ying-Lan: That's terrible!
Vance: I suppose so. Anyway, there's this place.
Ying-Lan: That's like that we lost our classroom.
Vance: I think they'll get it back. I'm not sure what else Nettie's company is working on.
Vance: Our schoolhouse doesn't pay them any money.
Ying-Lan: I knew that.... maybe she is busy.
Vance: My son is online at home and I'm trying to get him to come here.
Ying-Lan: I understood "she is a volunteer, too".
Ying-Lan: To pick up the phone..
Vance: He decided he had more important things to do (my son)
Vance: Have you been to the coterie website?
Vance: It shows the business of Coterie, which seems to be the schoolhouse, and that's all.
Ying-Lan: What's that?
Ying-Lan: I did not spend much time on line these days.
Vance: Type http://www.coterie.com into your browser and see.
Ying-Lan: I worked late last week... I can not think anything when I go home.
Vance: Are you home now?
Vance: I'm just browsing around the site. Actually it seems they have more clients now than just us.
Ying-Lan: It is Sunday... I justwoke up one hour before... Took a long nap in this afternoon.
Vance: Lucky you.
Ying-Lan: ^What is "You got even, I got odd"?
Vance: Sorry, just answered a message from Gosia and told her where we are
Vance: Even is a number like 2, 4, 6 ... odd is 3, 5, 7
Vance: So maybe I got 1st, 3rd, and you got 2nd, 4th ... BUT
Vance: It should be you got "evens"
Vance: You got even means you got revenge.
Vance: Where did you see this?
Ying-Lan: News letter from weird com.
Vance: http://www.weird.com ???
Ying-Lan: Yes, it is.
Ying-Lan: It is a tittle....
Ying-Lan: It was talking about a contest.
Vance: I'm trying to load the site now
Ying-Lan: Friday, 19 November 1999: You Get Even, We Get Odd
A few weeks ago, we announced a contest that Tripod is holding. You
build a site with Trellix, this WYSIWYG editor; post it on Tripod; and
Ying-Lan: I don't think you will find it at the weird.com.
Vance: I can't reach weird.com anyway. No wait, it's coming up ...
Vance: I think you showed me this before
Ying-Lan: It is hotweird.com
Vance: btw, would you like to chat on icq with Gosia? She can't reach the Palace.
Ying-Lan: That's o.k.
Ying-Lan: We move to Icq chat room?
Vance: We can stay here, but can you chat at the same time on ICQ?
Ying-Lan: All right!
Vance: Ok, let me get her in first ...
Now we move to ICQ ...
ICQ Chat Save file
Started on Sun Nov 21 17:11:32 1999
<Vance> OK, let me get Ying Lan
<Vance> Did you sneeze?
<ying> Hi, Gosia
<Gosia> Hi evetybody
<Gosia> Hi Ying
<Gosia> Yes I am
<ying> Long time no see!
<Gosia> from Poland
<Vance> oh, hello ...
<ying> Are you male? Right!
<Vance> Nice to see you again. Gosia says it's snowing where she is.
<ying> She is female...
<Gosia> No piiiiiiii - a wrong answer
<Gosia> I am female
<Vance> Ying Lan, check Gosia's web page. Lots of pictures.
<ying> I remember you are a student ....
<Gosia> no it would be better if you didn;t check it :)))
<Vance> Gosia, you have a great site, complete with pet brother
<Gosia> Yes my pet brother
<ying> I am sorry..., What is the URL of your web site?
<Gosia> Now he is outside
<Vance> And Ying Lan has a great site too. Have you read her stories, Gosia?
<Vance> It's on the webheads pages.
<Gosia> I am sorry I haven;t read it yrt
<ying> It was an old story... I wrote it one year before.
<Vance> It's a very inspiring story about how friendly people are to travelers.
<Vance> It's nice to get to know people through their pictures and their stories.
<Vance> So now Gosia is planning her next ski trip.
<Gosia> Yes now I am planning my New Year
<Gosia> I have no idea
<Gosia> what are you doing in New Year
<ying> That's great for planning to go to travel.
<Vance> I'm planning to be in San Francisco with my wife and two sons
<ying> I have to plan how to study in next vacation.
<Gosia> San Francisco - great
<Vance> I will visit my parents at Christmas and then go to San Francisco to see my son.
<Vance> What about you?
<ying> In Texas?
<ying> Or In Boston?
<Vance> Yep, in Texas. Houston. Houston, Texas.
<Gosia> I want to go in the mountains but everything is engaged now - almost
<ying> Gosia, Are you only 20?
<Vance> Are you planning to go to a party Ying Lan?
<Gosia> yes I am only 20 but why you say "only" :))
<ying> NO... Actually, I have never been in a Ball in last 10 years.
<ying> Because I am 35.
<Vance> When I think of a Ball I think of something very formal.
<ying> 20 is nice...
<Vance> A party is where friends get together and have some drinks, listen to music ...
<Vance> 20 is nice. 35 is nice. 45 is great (and getting better)
<ying> Most of my friends or classmates... they have their family...
<Gosia> perhaps it is nice but I will feel it when I am 35
<Vance> At 20 your whole life is in front of you. You have potential but no real power.
<ying> In holiday, they need to take card of their children and return their
<Vance> At 35 you have both.
<ying> parent's house...
<Gosia> and in45 ? :)))
<ying> I have no real power, too.
<Vance> At 45 you can do whatever you like. You are strong and still beautiful.
<ying> Vance, you are kidding!
<ying> I won't be beautiful when I am 45.
<Vance> It's a different kind of beauty. A 45 year old woman knows a lot about life.
<ying> Really...! I have met some ladies they are 45.... but I don't think they
<ying> know a lot about life.
<Gosia> My mother is 49 and I think she is still very beautiful
<Vance> But you are 35 so they seem old. True.
<ying> Not ladies... some men do.
<Vance> My wife is 49 and she is very beautiful.
<ying> The world changes so fast...
<Gosia> when she was 45 she born my brother she started new life again
<ying> I have seen her pic... Bobby is beautiful.
<Vance> She had your brother. Remarkable!
<Vance> Fortunately we are healthy, and we travel and visit new places and meet a lot of people who keep us young.
<Vance> That's great that your mother had a child at 45. But you said she wasn't healthy earlier this year. How is she now?
<ying> Gosia, your mother were pregnant when she was 45...
<Gosia> she is still ill but she will get out of it she will have to
<Gosia> she looks good and nobody will notice taht she is ill
<Vance> I'm glad she's improving.
<ying> That's great!
<Vance> think that ... that's funny.
<Vance> Are there only two kids in your family?
<Gosia> Yes exactly Ying when she was 45 - a gap between us is 16 - some people thought that I am a mother - ye really funny and I didn't answer them so that they thought I was mother :)))
<Gosia> yes only two
<Gosia> I was brought alone and he will be as well - a gap is tto big
<Vance> It's as if bother of you are only-children
<ying> It is dangerous!.. You might lost a chance to find your soul mate,
<Vance> "only children"
<ying> if you always pretend to be a mother of your brother!
<Vance> An "only-child" is a single child. No brothers or sisters.
<Vance> Gosia was an "only child" only she actually has a brother (who is also an "only-child")
<Gosia> okay I was the only-child and he is the only child right ?
<Gosia> but were you bringing up together
<Vance> I have a sister who is ... hmmm, maybe about that far apart from me, or maybe 12 years. She seemed to grow up in a different house, but now we are fairly close. (for one thing, she's on icq).
<ying> Is your young sister?
<Vance> We weren't really brought up together since I was already almost out of the house when she was a baby. I guess it's 16 years difference, same as you and your brother.
<Vance> My parents spoiled her more than they did me. They treated her like a grand-child.
<ying> Were you jealous her?
<ying> Were you jealous of her?
<Vance> No, I didn't care that much. I had other interests. was more interested in much larger girls.
<Vance> But I'm fairly close to her now after so many years.
<ying> I understood it...
<Gosia> I think we have similiar situation he is being spoiling
<Gosia> Sorry but I have to leave you I will try to come back i a few minutes
<Gosia> so see you soon
<Vance> ok see you in a few minutes I'll be her for another half hour.
<Vance> Ying Lan, I've been looking at hotweird.com. I'm wondering what you get even and we get odd means.
<ying> Vance, That's I want to ask you.
<Vance> You sent a little of the context, but it didn't give me a clue.
<Vance> I think this site is a little ... uh ... weird ...
<Vance> It was fun talking to Gosia. She's a nice girl I think. Hey, MC's on ICQ!!
<Vance> MC, we've been having a great time. Gosia was just here and promised to return.
<michaelc> Have you had anice time witjhout me?
<michaelc> Were you able to use Palace?
<Vance> Were you here before? Your message says you're back.
<ying> I sent the email to you...
<michaelc> That was just a few minutes ago.
<Vance> We are also at neon.communities.com:9998 (YL and I)
<ying> for Vance.
<Vance> (checking email)
<ying> Hi, Michaelc
<michaelc> I won't bother joining you at Palace. i have ti go soon.
<ying> To pick up your son?
<Vance> Maggi is moving upstairs (computer cord doesn't reach apparently)
<michaelc> No Maggie today? (Hi Ying.)
<michaelc> No YL - it's nearly bed time!
<michaelc> Vance - can I ask you about Interspace?
<Vance> You can. I downloaded it and hit a snag registering I think
<ying> I met a friend she came back to from Australia on summer vacation.
<michaelc> OK.... about 6 months ago I installed it and I could see people and talk to them. Now I go back there and see noone and I can't alk to anyone. Is it all working for you?
<Vance> A Taiwanese friend, YL?
<ying> Her family moved to Australis ten years ago...
<michaelc> YL - did your friend enjoy Australia?
<Vance> MC: I haven't tried it. I only downloaded it because Nicia said she used it. But we could try it.
<Vance> I'll have to go home and do it though.
<ying> Yes, they did.
<ying> But her mother said that "There are no much chance to make money."
<michaelc> Good. Australia is beautiful, fiull of friendly people like me! That's true YL.
<Vance> Look at MC. He's not making any money I'll bet. Even with all his talents.
<michaelc> Also true. Just a poor friendly man.
<ying> It is a good place to live and enjoying their life.
<Vance> However we do have a photo of him on his yacht.
<michaelc> Seriuosly - it IS a great place to live.
<Vance> Don't talk it up too much, MC. You'll incur a VISIT!
<ying> But only for the rich...
<michaelc> I'd love a visit from you all!
<Vance> There's a huge shoreline.
<michaelc> Our govt is not too pleased with the current trend of boat people happening again though. We have hundreds ariving every week lately.
<michaelc> Yeh - but we're catching them!
<Vance> I thought ALL Australians were boat people (except maybe the aborigines, and even them ... ???)
<ying> To send them back their country.
<michaelc> Yes we are. But I guess we don't want anymore ...or at least not too many.
<ying> Vance... it was history...
<michaelc> The problem is that all boat people know that even if they are caufht they will get several months here until Australia figues out what to do with them.
<ying> Michacel... Would you explain the sentence "You get even, we get odd"
<michaelc> YL - that's sounds like something someone would say in agame . Is that right?
<ying> No.. i don't know.
<Vance> You're close MC.
<michaelc> Like when people toss a coin....
<Vance> I'm downloading email now. More clues there.
<michaelc> Or something to do with odd numbers and even numbers. Where did you hear this phrase Ying?
<ying> A news letter from hotweird.com
<Vance> Not much in the email in the way of clues.
<ying> I think let Vance tell us.
<Vance>http://www.hotweird.com. Strange stuff. The picture you see when you enter Forbidden is good. I've had days like that.
<michaelc> Hotwired?...so...hotweird! I'll have a look....
<michaelc> I thought that's how you looked all the time Vance!
<ying> Yes, hot wired.
<Vance> YL, I just went to the url you sent in the email, and I have to say I have NO IDEA why they wrote the title You get even, we get odd.
<Vance> Wait, hotwired or hotweird?
<Vance> oh, you had us looking at a MUCH more interesting site.
<ying> Think it hotwired.com <http://www.hotwired.com>
<michaelc> I'm now looking at t the heads on a stick.!
<Vance> I was thinking that this was another side of the many sides of Ying Lan.
<michaelc> Yes - hotweird is very strange!. HOWIRED is a newsletter.
<michaelc> Have a look at howeird.com Ying!
<ying> I just made a mistake....
<ying> the spelling mistake.
<Vance> howeird is still up for grabs! If you're quick you can register it, MC.
<michaelc> Or how about 'howweird.com'?
<michaelc> I gott a go folks. Vance - if you get Interspece happenin g let me know....
<Vance> ok. Yeah, I'll have another look. Have you used Interspace YL?
<ying> Yes... one year ago...
<michaelc> Could you actually talk to people when you used it Ying?
<Vance> YL and I had a good conversation using Media Ring but when I tried it with Felix it was not so good because he didn't duplex. I thought I'd mention that.
<ying> Yes, I talked to David once.
<michaelc> I've aslo got Media Ring but haven't tried it yet.
<michaelc> One of these days I'll try everything!
<Vance> Media Ring worked well with YL and I.
<ying> Media Righ is good to use..
<michaelc> In the early days with David he had us using a different program every week!
<michaelc> Hi Maggie. How's the moving?
<Mad> it works...wow
<Vance> That's good MC. That's why I do this in the first place. Keeps me up to speed.
<Mad> the moving is shit...
<ying> Are you exhausted for moving?
<Vance> cool, welcome back to the world.
<michaelc> Yes - it is good. But there came a time when I just wanted to settle on afew tools and get to know them. (maggie and I talked about this lots in the past.)
<Vance> New tools are coming along all the time and are worth trying out.
<michaelc> Yeh - like always though - you gotta find the time somehow.
<Mad> I am more than exhausted Ying...I am going to just hire someone to move the big stuff..
<Vance> Maybe you can hire Stephan to do it.
<Mad> I won't be staying too long
<michaelc> I'm sure Stepahn would like that!
<Mad> My time is at a premium...
<ying> Take care! maggi
<Mad> Stefan is doing all he can now...
<michaelc> I really am going now. Goodnight everyone.
<Mad> We are both getting nice tight butts...:-)
<ying> Good night
<michaelc> Maggie - don't let it get you down.
<Vance> Are you leaving YL?
<Vance> OH, MC is leaving. Ok , bye mc.
<ying> It depends you...
<Mad> It's the men who9 won't help a lady in need...they have either back problems or tight schedules.
<ying> I don
<Mad> night mc!
<Mad> who honked?
<ying> I don't understand the "duplex"
<Mad> I can't let it get m4e down....
<Mad> bye mc
<Vance> Duplex is when you get sound going both ways at once so we could both talk at the same time.
<Vance> Felix has ... uniplex?? or one way at a time sound, so I have to finish talking before he can start. There are lags. Like talking on the radio.
<Mad> Well at least I got the phone working....
<Mad> that shoud be interesting Ying.
<ying> But I talked to Felix by I-phone.
<ying> It worked.
<Mad> oops...Vance is now where Ying was...I thought she was typing awlfully fast.
<ying> You know.... it was hard to undestand what he said on I-phone.
<ying> we both are not native speaker.
<Vance> Yeah, there was that too. But it's interesting talking to people you know virtually.
<Vance> This sense of the other person emerges.
<ying> I can not pronounce some words in English.
<ying> Like towel... , dawn and down.
<Vance> Your pronunciation is fine. So, say morning instead.
<ying> Towel, tower
<Vance> Say towel to dry off with ... it's clear what you mean from context.
<Mad> I know native speakers who have problems.
<Vance> I can understand Ying Lan better than I can someone from Scotland.
<Mad> You will be understand in context Ying.
<ying> Actually... my officemates laugh at me when we were talking in Chinese.
<Mad> understood...that is the main thing.
<Vance> Why do they laugh?
<Mad> Communication is the thing
<Mad> why yi8ng?
<ying> My Chinese pronunication.
<Mad> freudiAN SLIP
<Vance> Why is that? Is it from a different region?
<ying> NO... I spoke the wrong sound.
<Vance> So many tones!
<Mad> People here laugh when I speak Hessishe....
<Mad> even though it is correct it sounds funny to here a foreighner say it...
<Mad> there are four major tones right Ying?
<ying> Yes... There are four major tones.
<ying> Sometimes I made mistakes when I spoke fast.
<Vance> I'm going to have to be leaving soon. I have to go pick up my plane tickets
<ying> It is time to say byb-bye.
<Mad> We probablyall do.
<Vance> yeah, you're moving. Gosia was here earlier. You can read about it in the logs.
<Mad> ok...I have to get some stuff done...it never ends...have fun!
<Vance> No one answered my questions about the last logs :-(
<Mad> which were?
<Vance> Questions from the logs, didn't you see them? Just secrets you can find out from the logs.
<ying> I just thought it was a good iead.
<Mad> I was there...never went back to read them again.Sould I guess?
<Vance> Like this week, what do Vance and Gosia have in common? (both 16 years apart from nearest sibling). A question about Ying Lan ... ???
<Vance> (can you think of one?)
<ying> No question...
<ying> hotwired or hotweird.
<Mad> You have a sibling 16 yrs younger or older than you Vance3?
<Vance> That's a good one. What spelling mistake does YL make that leads MC and V to a very interesting (but strange) website?
<Mad> same mother?
<Vance> maybe I could introduce you to my two-year younger brother ...
<Mad> is he married?
<Vance> Yeah, same mother. My parents were both married before they married each other.
<Vance> He's married. Also incredibly rich. Unlike me.
<Mad> forget it
<Vance> not even rich??
<Mad> not into being a kept woman
<Vance> hmmm, I could get into being a kept man on the side ... just imagining ...
<Vance> Do you know what a "kept woman" is YL?
<Mad> not for long I think...
<ying> What is the kept woman or kept man?
<Vance> It's a woman who is supported by a man just for sex.
<ying> I am not.
<Vance> Or especially for sex, maybe for other reasons as well, like they like each other.
<Mad> I could imagine it being fun for a bit...where does he live?
<Vance> I suppose if you decided it wasn't in your interests you could just leave.
<Vance> My brother? He lives in Houston. But he NEVER corresponds or answers email. I think his wife doesn't like our family.
<Vance> That's life.
<Mad> Hmmm...sounds a little like a rich snob.
<Vance> I've got to go. I have to ...
<Vance> you are not what, YL?
<ying> kept woman
<Vance> No, you'd have to have a rich boyfriend.
<ying> I need one.
<Vance> It's not like a prostitute. It's someone who gives gifts.
<Vance> Yeah, I don't think it's such a bad thing.
<Vance> You'll find one. Go to Vancouver. Different social setting ???
<Vance> Would that help?
<ying> I don't know...
<Vance> but you just visited, didn't you?
<Vance> If you lived there it would be different.
<ying> I have been there but no chance to meet my soul mate
<Vance> You are a beautiful soul, so you must find your soul mate.
<Vance> Yeah, I've got to go too.
<ying> o.k..... it is time to say bye.. you have to get your plane ticket.
<Vance> Before the agent closes.
<Vance> OK, see you next Sunday.
<ying> See you.
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