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Vance: @64,64 !It's Vance
Maggi: Hi Vqance!
Vance: Hi. Doing a couple of things at once here. I thought maybe
you were here with Felix.
Maggi: my fingers slipped yesterday so fast that I rearranged my
Maggi: Felix is still only talking with me on icq.
Vance: one moment please
Felix: @64,64 !It's Felix
Maggi: Look out...Felix is coming!
Vance: So, things are confusing as usual. I thought I was going to
have to run home to get my bathing suit.
Felix: I am here
Maggi: Hi Felix...
Vance: Hi Felix
Felix: a bikini Vance?
Felix: Just kidding
Maggi: like an eye patch maybe?
Vance: One of my diving students is a friend of my son's.
Felix: Are these diving classes free Vance?
Maggi: are you interested too Felix?
Vance: I've got all my equipment in the car ... yeah they're free
... I always teach for free LOL
Maggi: we are suckers...but satisfied ones
Felix: yes I am
Maggi: would love to see you show up with everything but the
Vance: but I left my bathing suit at home ... but the kid who is a
friend of my son's is there now, and he can bring my bathing suit when he comes
to the pool!!
Felix: what does trunks mean Maggi ?
Maggi: bathing suit in American
Maggi: men have trunks
Maggi: like a car
Maggi: we have a bathing costume in British English
Maggi: maybe an elephant...who knows
Vance: you mean a boot?
Maggi: oh dear...now I have to explain...:-)
Felix: yes you do maggi
Maggi: a boot is British for a trunk
Vance: There are some websites explaining differences in British
Felix: and what does trunk have to do with a man's bathing suit ?
Felix: you mean that a trunk is very you keep your stuff.. Is that
Maggi: how do I explain that politely...let me see
Felix: a trunk is where you keep...
Felix: politety.. dont need it... go straight to the point..
Vance: The point of my story is that because the kid is bringing
the trunks, I can chat for a minute. Otherwise I was going to have to run home.
Maggi: an appendage...
Maggi: well good...so talk before you have to rush off Vance!
Felix: appendage?? Are you talking Japanese today maggi? LOL
Vance: Now we can talk about euphemisms. Do you know the word
Felix: yes I do.. But honestly neither in Portuguese nor in ENglish
I know what it means
Maggi: I think he does, but you give it a go Vance!
Felix: let me look it up in a port dic
Vance: A euphemism is a word you use when you don't want to say the
REAL word. Like "appendage" for ... you know ...
Maggi: he knows
Felix: I got it
Felix: like a mother sucker = a bad guy.. LOL
Vance: Yeah, like that.
Felix: I dont know appendage maggi
Maggi: that one is not so very polite
Maggi: yes you do!
Vance: From "append" = to attach. An appendage is an attachment.
Felix: I just tried to give an example Maggi, dont be offended.
Maggi: I aam never offended
Maggi: I know you better Felix
Felix: so appendage in maggi's context is a sexual relation?
Maggi: you are harmless
Felix: sometimes Maggi.. LOL
Maggi: no...a part of the body Felix
Vance: No, it's something attached to your body.
Felix: I got it
Felix: I am fond of this talk.. LOL
Maggi: I am coming to Brazil and whack you one...:-)
Felix: Be my guest MAGGI
Maggi: I will
Vance: Everyone likes to talk about ... you know ... but no one
wants to SAY it ... why IS that?
Felix: just read the meaning of WHACK.. DONT DARE MAGGI
Maggi: Because maybe we look like we have nothing else on our
Vance: In essence, we don't.
Felix: I think it all depends on the way the conversation goes...
Maggi: I would never really whack you Felix
Felix: YEsterday we played a nice game in a bar..
Maggi: Good thing huh? I know a better strategy.
Felix: It's called hmmm few or many
Maggi: and how do you play?
Felix: it's typically a game for alcoholics
Felix: well, a person choose secretly a number from 0 -500
Vance: got one
Maggi: big range
Felix: and then make 2 columns on a paper FEW = MANY
Felix: then the next player try NOT to guess the number, cause the
person who go it is going to drink a glass of a beverage..
Felix: do you wanna make a try now VAnce and MAggi
Felix: It's an excellent game
Ying-Lan: @64,64 !It's Ying-Lan
Vance: Hi YL.
Maggi: sorry...my son just called
Ying-Lan: Am I late?
Maggi: Hi YL
Vance: Right on time.
Maggi: I was an hour early then?
Vance: And you're up early, Felix? Did you not go to bed?
Ying-Lan: Vance, Maggi and Felix , how are you?
Maggi: He actually fell out of bed !
Felix: yep.. Yesterday afternoon I got drunk playing that game...
So I went to bed early
Felix: Fine Ying.. Thanks for me e-mails..... How are you?
Felix: for the
Ying-Lan: Vance, Will you go to the diving class?
Maggi: Not bad and you ?
Vance: Yes, in fact, I was about to say I have to go now.
Felix: I think the effect of the beverage is still on.. I am
mispelling a lot..heheh
Ying-Lan: You mean the Chyi's story and Ally?
Maggi: I hope your trunks show up :-)
Felix: and the Bumper Sticks too
Ying-Lan: You receive the bumper stickers?
Vance: I got all those things.
Ying-Lan: ^Was it from the e-group?
Felix: yes ying
Vance: And I canceled the incorrect email address.
Maggi: I think I need to save this now,,,
Ying-Lan: ^Thanks, vance.
Maggi: happy swimming Vance..
Ying-Lan: ^But Felix,,, it did not work.. because the egroup reject my
Maggi: wqas i
Maggi: was it too big maybe?
Vance: I'll put Chyi's song up on our web site YL if you want,
along with your story about her, and people can go there to hear it.
Ying-Lan: ^Would you mind to checking it was from egoup or Ying ?
Felix: ROFLMAO.. My wife is saying now.. Who is this man with your
name on the screen? I explained her that it's just an avatar.. Then she said..
Sorry hon, but you are handsome but the man on the screen is
Maggi: I got it
Maggi: true Felix
Felix: No Ying. I got them all from e-group
Felix: but wife uh??? Telling the truth that way...
Ying-Lan: ^Thanks, Vance, Please put chyi's story at your web sites.
Vance: From you to webheads and from webheads to us I think ...
Maggi: honesty is the best policy
Felix: Maggi, maggi, maggi.. LOL
Ying-Lan: ^You could do anything, if you like.
Felix: Who could do anything Ying?
Maggi: you told me I have skin like a baby Felix
Felix: yes, maggi... that's right
Vance: I've really got to go now. Thanks for keeping the log,
Maggi. Bye everyone.
Felix: like a baby buttocks
Maggi: from just looking at my photo
Maggi: bye Vance...have fun!
Ying-Lan: @64,64 !It's Ying-Lan
Felix: so let's play that game or arent you interested?
Ying-Lan: Vance is gone?
Felix: he went to his diving class Ying
Maggi: hang on...I have to save this...
Ying-Lan: It is weird... I just received several emails from egoup..
Ying-Lan: ^But I sent them two days ago.
Felix: dont worry Maggi. I am also saving
Maggi: ok...I'm getting good at this...
Maggi: why didn't you tell me Felix?
Maggi: I'm saving in two places
Felix: tell what?
Felix: oh... I forgot
Maggi: that you are saving it too...-
Felix: so what Ying?
Ying-Lan: Do you like these stories?
Maggi: I don't watch TV
Maggi: I don''t know th
Felix: Yes, ying.. they are interesting
Maggi: the stories
Maggi: they are interesting
Ying-Lan: I think it will take spaces in your computer... I apologize.
Felix: But I couldn't understand the qcq file you sent.. There's so
much background noise
Maggi: I know my students like this kind of stuff.
Ying-Lan: Yes,. I think so.
Maggi: no problem...I still have plenty of spqace
Ying-Lan: So... maybe someone will give us the scripts.
Maggi: aaahhhh space
Felix: yes, maybe
Ying-Lan: ^Space can not be used as spaces?
Maggi: spaces are the area between things
Maggi: space means the room you have
Maggi: on the computer and in your house for example
Ying-Lan: ^Another question is Which one is correct "Betty is of the
same age as Tom is." or "Betty is the same age as Tom is."
Felix: the second sentence
Ying-Lan: How about you, maggi?
Maggi: both are correct
Felix: Dont trust me Ying? LOL Just kidding
Felix: See ying.. you'd better not trusth
Ying-Lan: ^Felix... My dictionary wrote "Betty is of the same age as
Felix: I've never heard this construction
Ying-Lan: ^That's why I asked the question.
Maggi: only because a rule says that you should never end a
sentence with a preposition
Ying-Lan: ^I have not heard it before.
Maggi: but we do
Maggi: that construction is stilted
Ying-Lan: ^"Space in my computer", or "Space on my comuter"
Maggi: do you have space in your computer on you disk
Maggi: your harddisk
Maggi: eee...that was German spelling...disc
Ying-Lan: ^It is perfect explanation.
Maggi: thank you Ying :-)
Ying-Lan: ^"It will take more space in your computer on your hard
Felix: a doubt in pronounciationo
Felix: adult - the stress syllabe is A right?
Maggi: yes Ying
Maggi: yes Felix
Ying-Lan: adult?,,, troubled me.
Maggi: aah dult
Felix: but I was listening to an American text and the voice-over
pronounced Adult almost like ADopt.... the stress in the DU
Maggi: hey...eversyone does it different...
Maggi: tell your students not to worry
Maggi: as long as the person understands
Felix: so, it's correct to stress DUL then
Ying-Lan: ^I practiced the word several times yesterday. But now, I
don't remember how to pronounce it.
Felix: what word Ying?
Maggi: don't waste time trying to be perfect...
Ying-Lan: ^I just the dictionary.
Maggi: ...do like Deden does and just start talking
Ying-Lan: ^Some words are similiar...
Maggi: with the practice you will get better
Felix: like man and men... bed and bad... I have problems with
those words too
Ying-Lan: ^Sometimes, it will cause the misunderstand.
Felix: I agree with Ying
Ying-Lan: Felix, me too.
Ying-Lan: ^Sometimes, it will cause the misunderstanding. .
Maggi: not really, because you know from the rest of the sentence
which one it is.
Maggi: it will cause misunderstanding
Felix: but Maggi, if we are studying a language we have to
pronounce it correctly... if accent of course,, but correctly
Felix: with accent..
Maggi: what is correct Felix
Ying-Lan: ^maggi, Can you distinguish the word with s or without s?
Maggi: there are so many different accents with native speakers
Maggi: how can you learn them all?
Felix: I have problem with E and A like Bed and Bad... and ED like
Maggi: the ed is either a t or d sound
Ying-Lan: ^maggi, Can you distinguish the word with s or wihout s from
sentences when you are talking with someone?
Maggi: which word with s Ying
Ying-Lan: ^Like talk and talks.... He/she.... + present tense... the
verb with s.
Maggi: bad is an aaaaahhhhhh sound like when you stick your finger
down your throat:-)
Felix: I can recognize s in sentences..... but generally I dont
recognize Love and Loved...
Maggi: yes...sound like a snake...sssssssss
Ying-Lan: ^Or aren't and are... do and don't...
Maggi: do is like when you are surprised and go oooooooooo
Felix: ying, I learned something.. You are going to get used to the
sounds when you listen to it more and more..
Maggi: and don't is the second pqart of being surprised...ohhhhhhhh
Ying-Lan: ^What do you mean? maggi...
Maggi: making sounds
Maggi: dooooooooo and dohhhhhhhnt't
Ying-Lan: ^Felix,, I knew that... but it still troubles me.
Maggi: stop letting it trouble you Ying and just get on with trying
Felix: It still troubles me too Ying. But we dont speak with native
speakers constantly.. That's the problem.. I dont worry about it anymore.
Maggi: stop worrying about it
Maggi: there are plenty of native speakers who don't understand
Ying-Lan: Felix.. do you have an experience.. like one day you wake
up, you suddently could not unerstand the story wrote in English?
Felix: Same in Brazil... Depend on the region.. The slangs they use
Ying-Lan: ^Felix.. do you have an experience.. like one day you waked
up, you suddently could not unerstand the story wrote in English?
Felix: Only if I dont know the vocabulaly Ying
Felix: woke up
Ying-Lan: ^Thanks ... woke up
Maggi: I have recipes I wrote in Swedish over 20 yrs ago that I
have to scratch my head first.
Felix: English language has the biggest vocabulary among all the
Ying-Lan: ^You know... These days,,, I found I could not understand
the story wrote in English.
Maggi: true Felix...even we don't know them all...:-)
Ying-Lan: ^You know... These days,,, I find myself could not
understand the stories wrote in English.
Felix: But was it a new story or one that you had already
Ying-Lan: I don't know...
Maggi: Ying- these days I find that I cannot understand the stories
I wrote in English
Ying-Lan: ^LIke the email from Moral.
Felix: Well, it's all about vocabulary Ying....
Maggi: I am not getting Moral's messages
Maggi: they are all in some cod4
Felix: yesterday I read a text in English on pronounciation
Ying-Lan: ^maggi, the stories have writen by some one.
Maggi: looks like a chicken walked across the screen
Ying-Lan: ^maggi, the stories have been writen by some one, not I. .
Felix: It's says WHY the Hell COW doenst rhyme with LOW but
through, ryhmes with To, TOO, BLUE, SHoe.. See, English is not that easy
Maggi: hey...some other languages are not easy either.
Maggi: like Latin
Felix: of course not...
Ying-Lan: ^maggi, the stories have been written by some one, not I. .
Felix: But the topic is English now
Maggi: who wrote them then Ying?
Maggi: English is crazy but fun°
Felix: I dont care if Japanae, Chinese of whatever is difficult. I
dont study those languages.
Felix: or whatever
Felix: OH MY.. WHAT A SPELLING I am into today
Maggi: Chinese is easy...Japanese can be a problem
Maggi: you fell out of bed...remember Felix?!
Ying-Lan: Somebody. told me.:To study Germanic is mord harder than to
Maggi: English is a germanic language...and half Latin.
Ying-Lan: ^Felix, trust me... like maggi said.. Chinese is easy..
there is no verb tense.
Ying-Lan: ^and quantity
Maggi: it is harder in the beginning because of all the
endings...later it gets easier.
Maggi: The opposite happens in English.
Felix: Latin language is very hard on Grammar... But pronounciation
is very easy
Maggi: except French:-)
Felix: anyone wants a pizza?/
Ying-Lan: ^I have met a German when I visited Norway.. she told me
even a native speak still be troubled the grammer of Germanic.
Maggi: I am going to put some salmon steaks on...
Ying-Lan: ^I have met a Germany when I visited Norway.. she told me
even a native speak still be troubled the grammer of Germanic.
Maggi: Even the Germans have problems with their grammar...yes
Maggi: you met a German
Maggi: they have a reform now
Ying-Lan: ^Two.. they are students of university.
Maggi: it doesn't really solve the
Maggi: but now they have a lot of English in German
Maggi: like a mobile phone is called a handy...
Maggi: I like that...it is handy.
Maggi: in the US yes, it is called a cell phone
Maggi: think I better save this again...:-)
Ying-Lan: ^You know we say it is "Big brother big" in Chinese.
Felix: what is BBB ying/
Ying-Lan: ^We call "pager" as "B B Call"... it always alarms like
Ying-Lan: ^"Big Brother Big" is "cell phone" in Chinese.
Felix: i got it
Felix: Ying, have you ever took the TOFEL ?
Ying-Lan: ^I did not know the "cell phone" and "pager
^No... I am afraid of the TOEL... it is too hard to pass.
Maggi: that is a test that many native speakers would not be able
Felix: really Mad?
Felix: i see
Maggi: they ask really tricky questions
Felix: Ying, maggi owe us something... Do you remember what it is?
Ying-Lan: ^That's the reason I always tell myself.
Ying-Lan: I forgot it.
Maggi: what do I owe you...a PureVoice message?
Felix: a pure voice
Ying-Lan: Yes.. the pure voice.
Ying-Lan: ^Maggi is very busy to make money to live...
Maggi: mine is going too fast...everyone sounds like a chipmunk
Maggi: I have to try and download it again.
Ying-Lan: ^Have you adjusted the + or - ? You could see it on the
Felix: maybe the + button is so high...
Maggi: it is really funny though!
Felix: the + - buttons are not for the volume Maggi,, maybe that's
Maggi: could be
Maggi: I will try that first
Ying-Lan: ^Maybe it is the answer.
Maggi: but it was really funny to listen to Michael and Vance
Felix: why funny?
Maggi: talking so fast!
Maggi: like a chipmunck
Ying-Lan: ^maggi, how about giving me the script of John.qcp?
Felix: my log window stucked
Maggi: no ed
Felix: @64,64 !It's Felix
Maggi: I have not listened or looked at it yet Yyi9ng
Maggi: ooops Yying#
Ying-Lan: ^Felix.. what's wrong with him?
Maggi: I think he is having problems
Felix: @64,64 !It's Felix
Ying-Lan: ^It's o.k. Maybe you will take a look at it later.
Felix: i am back again
Ying-Lan: ^Wait... you have a real class tody, don't you?
Maggi: Yes Ying...I will
Felix: on Sundays?? yuck
Ying-Lan: ^If you get the time... please listent the file.
Maggi: no not on Sunday
Felix: Sunday was made to unwind
Maggi: no live classes on Sunday...only here
Felix: kick up the heels and party
Maggi: I ha
Felix: I ha ?????????????????
Maggi: have real classes tomorrow starting at 7.30 am
Maggi: yes...great way to start the week:-)
Ying-Lan: ^They go to class before they work...
Maggi: with dr. so and so
Felix: what do you mean Maggi?
Ying-Lan: so and so
Maggi: yes...most of them spend 80% of their time in meetings
Maggi: they are a bunch of Phd's
Felix: meetings are boring when it happens a lot
Maggi: here they are called Dr....so and so means I don't know the
Felix: when they happen a lot
Ying-Lan: ^Most of them spend 80% of their time in meeting.. but who
Maggi: So Monday morning is the best time for them
Felix: in Brazil we say Dr. Fulano or Dr. Fulano de tal
Ying-Lan: ^only 20% of worker make money?
Michael C: @64,64 !It's Michael C
Ying-Lan: ^Hi, Michaelc
Maggi: no, Ying ... I meant that they spend 80% of the time they
work in meetings#
Maggi: Hi Michael
Michael C: Hi folks!
Felix: Howdy Michael
Ying-Lan: ^Maggi, do you think German is too serious?
Maggi: I have the log Felix#
Felix: Tomorrow I will start a Corel Draw course
Maggi: the people or the language?
Ying-Lan: ^maggi, their work is "attending the meeting".
Maggi: Corel Draw is cool Felix
Maggi: jump in here Michael...:-)
Felix: i dont have any clue about it.. It has hundreds of
Maggi: punch buttons and see what happens
Michael C: I find Corel Draw confusing! Too many functions!
Felix: Hey Michael, did you realize we have a student living in
Adelaide in our e-fi class?
Michael C: Yes I did Felix. My wife used to teach her!
Felix: I forgot her name
Felix: oh really? So you know her personally
Michael C: Her name is Latifa. Yes I have met her.
Felix: is your wife a teacher too?? Cool
Michael C: Pretty cool!
Michael C: Sometimes I try and persuade her to join EFI but then we'd
need 2 Net connections!
Felix: why not in a different time?
Michael C: We'd both be online at the same time.
Michael C: Generally the only practical time for us here is 10-12 pm.
Felix: oh I see.. Maybe a network would be ok.... Do you have 2
computers in your house ?
Michael C: Yes we do. I have thought about the idea of a local network!
Felix: a local network will work.
Ying-Lan: ^That's interesting.
Michael C: Maggi - do you want my opinion on serious Germans?
Ying-Lan: ^Have you email something to your wife?
Felix: The only problem is that she wont participate in our hanger
parties.. lol Just kidding
Michael C: I doubt it Felix.
Michael C: And no I have never emailed ny wife Ying. She is not a Net
Felix: husband x wife dont work together in a party like that
Michael C: not a net user...
Felix: I mean... I will never take my wife into that
Michael C: I'm glad.
Ying-Lan: ^go on your opinion of German. Please.
Maggi: sure Michael...give me your opinion about serious Germans
Michael C: OK. This is of course a generalisation but I think Germans
are a bit more serious than other races.
Maggi: true...but you know what...?
Michael C: But they allso know how to have a good time as good as other
people. They just take longer to loosen up.
Maggi: ---they are more open than others and honest about how they
Michael C: That's interesting Maggie.
Maggi: more so than the Dutch
Felix: I think the world is changing in behavior..
Michael C: Maybe. How so felix?
Maggi: there is a fine line between using a generalisation to help
you understand a country...
Felix: They are becoming more outgoing, of course there are weirdos
like confuse freedom with mess, violence.
Maggi: and getting it wrong because there are always exceptions
Maggi: The Finns take the longest to loosen up..:-)
Ying-Lan: ^There is a famous author married a German. She said "
German always make a strong bed, like they will have slept for over 100 years."
Felix: people like to generalize a nation by a fact that happened
or a person they knew.. That's not fair
Michael C: Yes - that's the important thing is these discussions about
national characteristics. There are ALWAYS exceptions.
Michael C: So what do you think that means Ying?
Maggi: but you know what...they (the Germans) are are a very gentle
Maggi: they be
Ying-Lan: ^i don't understant what meam?
Michael C: i think we have to trust your opinions on this Maggie.
Felix: I think the world is full of jerks and gentle ppl....
Michael C: You are in a postion to know them intimately.
Michael C: Well Ying I think it means that Germans do things
Maggi: true...they get on my nerves sometimes though:-)
Michael C: Why do they get on your nerves?
Maggi: that is what gets on my nerves
Michael C: Oh. So they're perfectionists?
Felix: Yesterday a friend of mine told me that her host family
charges their daughter 150 dollar to live in their house. In my culture, that's
unacceptable if the parents make ends meet..
Maggi: that everything should be perfect
Felix: ps: this happened in the USA
Michael C: Is this a German host family Felix?
Maggi: yes, Felix...but maybe they are trying to teach something
Michael C: I thinl it's OK to charge board or rent....
Felix: yes Maggi, but I dont understand this means.
Felix: I dont think it's ok..
Maggi: but things are changing fast...and I do my part :-)
Michael C: It's quite normal here. Parents do the same thing woth their
Michael C: Not a perfectionist maggie?!
Felix: Only if the parents dont make good money and their sons
work.. So, this way they can help pay the bills.. But if they have money (in
this case I am talking about, they are bankers)...
Maggi: I am about to do the same with my son...:-)
Felix: See Michael.. It's all about culture
Maggi: I used to be one...not any more
Ying-Lan: ^Feliex. The daughter is single or not?
Michael C: People (including children) should contribute to the family
Maggi: culture is a strong thing for some
Felix: another example.. If you have a brother/sister and want to
go there to visit, you dont need to phone frist.. you just go
Michael C: That's the same in Australia.
Felix: yes, she is a 18 year old single daughter
Maggi: not nice to just show up unexpected
Felix: amonth the family Brazilians dont see any problem
Ying-Lan: ^Felix, Does she work for money?
Maggi: so I can just show up Felix?
Michael C: It was the same in Holland maggie. That used to really bug
Felix: She had to start working because of that..
Ying-Lan: it is strange
Michael C: In Australia you can just show up without warning.
Maggi: not in Germany...
Maggi: course there are exceptions
Felix: So is Australia the same way as in Brazil Michael? (about
visiting close friends, family)
Felix: same in Brazil
Ying-Lan: ^Do you need to pay the money to your parent when you were
Michael C: Ying - if my grown up children don't work we can not
Maggi: I MOVEED
Ying-Lan: ^maggi. Do you need to pay the money to your parent when you
Maggi: oops..moved out Ying
Ying-Lan: ^You moved out of your parent's house when you were 18.
Maggi: when I was 17
Michael C: But when I was living with my parents at that age i had to
pay some board.
Felix: Because it was necessary (they didnt make much money) or
because of the culture Michael?
Maggi: my son wants to get a job to help out
Ying-Lan: ^Soo. that's great.. you paid your university and made money
for your self.
Michael C: Because of the culture I guess Felix.
Michael C: It helped me understand the value of money.
Ying-Lan: ^When you were only 17.
Felix: Do you do the same with your kids Michael?
Maggi: I worked and went to school at night...because I had no
money to pay for it I just sat in.
Ying-Lan: ^You have made money for yourself since you were 17.
Maggi: That means I did not get credit.
Maggi: Later I took the tests to get a degree.
Michael C: If they had enough work yes i would Felix. At the moment
they dont have much work.
Felix: I see.
Ying-Lan: ^That's great!
Felix: It's all about culture
Michael C: If they were working full time (or nearly) absolutely!
Maggi: 16 actually Ying
Ying-Lan: ^WOOOOOO! Did you tell your son about this?
Felix: how old are your kids Michael?
Michael C: I left home at 19. What about you Felix? (My kids are 20 and
19 and 15)
Maggi: before that it was only babysitting but I still had to buy
all my clothes etc. with that.
Felix: I never left home.
Michael C: Do you love with your parents Felix?
Ying-Lan: ^You know.. I still live with my parents even I am 35.
Michael C: I mean LIVE!
Michael C: I know Ying.
Felix: I married when I was 18.. And I still lived in my parents
house ( a 3 store building)
Felix: talking about parents.. My father just showed up
Ying-Lan: show up?
Maggi: yes...Ying we have talked about this
Ying-Lan: ^maggi, I don't think you will let your son go out...
Michael C: Ying - do you have to tell people that you are going to
visit them in Taiwan?
Michael C: Or can you just drop in?
Ying-Lan: YOu mean I drop in my freind house.
Maggi: my son is gone for the weekend...camping with friends
Michael C: Yes...
Ying-Lan: ^ maggi, I mean he want to move out when he is 16.
Maggi: He wouldn't want to do that yet.
Maggi: but 18 yes,maybe
Ying-Lan: ^for Michaelc. I usually to visit my friends and
my-grand-mother without advice.
Maggi: We are both looking forward to living separate lives ...:-)
Ying-Lan: ^But I think it is bad... because sometimes they went out
and no body at their house.
Michael C: OK - that's similar to Australia.
Michael C: Yes. We just drop in on people.
Maggi: that is the risk you take when you show up unexpectedly
Maggi: have to save again
Michael C: Bravo Maggie!
Michael C: Bravo = well done.
Felix: Bravo... I like that
Felix: nope.. Italian Michael C: English steals many words!
Ying-Lan: ^"a shout of joy because someone had done well."
Michael C: That's right Ying.
Ying-Lan: ^"a shout of joy because someone has done well." I look at
Maggi: we are good at snitching words from other languages
Felix: We say it in Portuguese too
Maggi: I am getting good at this...:-)
Michael C: Bravo again!
Maggi: sssssnitching and saving
Ying-Lan: ^snitich = stolen?
Maggi: snitch is to take something without prmission
Michael C: Yep.
Maggi: ok...like stealing
Ying-Lan: ^Every languae did.
Maggi: look in my dictionary
Ying-Lan: ^like Chinese and Japanese... Especially the later one.
Maggi: English is a champ at stealing words
Felix: like when brothers snitch clothes from their parents or
other brothers to go to a party?
Michael C: Yes I suppose so but English has a reputation for doing a
lot of it.
Felix: Portuguese snitches lots of English words..
Michael C: That's one reason why Engloish spelling is so inconsistent.
Michael C: We don't change the spelling when we take the words into
Maggi: we took the rules from the language we stole from
Felix: i see
Maggi: Germans are doing it now with English...
Maggi: ...like handy for a mobile phone
Felix: English has lots of spanish and french words in its
Felix: like macho
Maggi: a macho is a macho
Felix: felix is a macho
Maggi: put the
Maggi: ýes you are...but anice one
Maggi: only psuedo macho
Felix: Felix is THE macho... that's better
Maggi: oh...there are more of you :-)
Ying-Lan: ^What dose Macho mean? I can not find it in my dictionary.
Maggi: a man who thinks he is cool...:-)
Felix: Macho = man... but in a machist way
Michael C: Maggie or Felix - would you like to explain 'macho'?
Michael C: So are you sexist Felix?
Ying-Lan: ^Felix.. your icon is a cool man whom I like.
Maggi: not really...
Felix: for instance.. A macho doesnt allow his wife to work out, he
has the obligation of cum 3-4 times, that a woman has to work only at home..
Felix: thanks Ying
Michael C: Often macho men are sexist......
Maggi: Felix is only half macho
Ying-Lan: ^Felix.. your icon is a Macho whom I like. ONly I like the
Maggi: He loves women...
Felix: yes, but nowadays we use MAcho to describe a REAL MAn,, not
the ones who use long hair, earings, etc..
Michael C: Half macho is not real macho then!
Felix: there's no half macho Michael...
Maggi: you are Felix
Felix: in the sense of the word.. There's only 2 options... Be or
not be a macho
Ying-Lan: ^So.. you are a superman.
Felix: there are
Michael C: I agree Felix. You are either macho or you're not!
Maggi: to be or not to be...that is the question...:-)
Ying-Lan: Good one. maggi.
Michael C: I don't think I'm macho......
Felix: me neither
Ying-Lan: ^ ^o^
Maggi: no comment
Felix: But never say it in Brazil Michael
Michael C: So you let your wife work Felix?!
Felix: of courseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Felix: If she wants to pay all the bills... She is my
Ying-Lan: ^Really.. you are a macho...
Maggi: still no comment
Michael C: OK. If I ever go to Brazil I'll say I'm macho!
Felix: I am a macho in the sense that I like women
Ying-Lan: ^But you don't like your wife work out, right?
Maggi: macho comes from how you treat women...
Felix: yes michael, you just to play the role well, you have to
stratch your trunk in public too.. LOL
Michael C: No way!
Maggi: he missed the beginning Felix
Maggi: no fair
Michael C: I think I'll skip Brazil then!
Felix: explain to him the meaning of trunk maggi
Maggi: none of the others are going to understand this
Michael C: mmmm?
Maggi: do I have to?
Michael C: I think you should.....
Maggi: oh dear...why is it always me...?
Michael C: You enjoy it.....
Maggi: an appendage Michael
Michael C: Yeh well that's what I figured!
Maggi: I thought you would
Felix: @64,64 !It's Felix
Michael C: So people do this a lot in Brazil Felix?
Felix: i am back
Maggi: Felix is having tech problems again.
Felix: yes Michael
Michael C: Got any photos of this?
Maggi: well, they have hanger parties don't they?
Felix: dont you Maggi??
Maggi: You don't do that in OZ
Michael C: Course not......
Maggi: They don't in the US as far as I know.
Felix: dont you have hanger parties in Australia? I doubt it
Felix: you are faraway USA from a long time MAggi.. ehehe
Michael C: To be honest Felix I don't know. i don't mix in scuh
Felix: Me neiher..
Michael C: such circles
Maggi: They have nudist camps here...
Felix: But I have heard about them
Felix: nudist camp is not what we are talking about.
Michael C: Nudist camps are innocent.
Maggi: at such a place you wouldn't need to have a hanger party
Felix: I think so..
Michael C: Aren't they?
Felix: innocent in some way...
Felix: But it's embarrasing to get it UP in front of others.. I
wouldnt be comfortable in a nudist camp
Maggi: people who go there just want the freedom to be themselves
Michael C: But your Palace body is very attractive Felix....
Maggi: nobody gets it up
Felix: but i have clothes on michael
Michael C: Watch it Maggie!
Felix: of course they do Maggi.. come on...
Michael C: I mean that other avatar you have Felix.
Maggi: no they don'T
Felix: you have never seen an erection in a nudist camp ?
Maggi: it is a place to relax.
Maggi: like the sauna...
Michael C: What kind of question is that?!
Maggi: it is not a place to get it up...
Felix: No, I am not talking dirty.. Honestly
Michael C: Nothing to do with the topic.......but I have to go.....
Maggi: not when the people are there to relax
Michael C: ...my som needs some help with his homework.
Michael C: I promised to help him.
Maggi: a voyeur maybe would do that
Felix: The point is that I said I wouldnt feel comfortable having
an erection in front of other... It's embarassing.. Understand what I mean now
Felix: Not a voyeur but someone who is not used to that kind of
place.. A first-second visitor for example
Felix: have a nice week Michael
Maggi: yes...but that is not necessary in a nudist camp
Michael C: So goodnight everyone. I'll look forward to reading the end
of this conversation.
Michael C: Have a good week.
Ying-Lan: Good bye michalec.
Maggi: I think we will finish it in private
Felix: not necessary.. But it's a call of the nature... If you are
not used to it you can go through an embarrassing situation like that
Felix: I think Ying is so comfortable with this talk
Felix: Sorry Ying.
Ying-Lan: I AM TIRED.
Ying-Lan: ^NOTHING IN MY MIND.
Felix: so you dont need to yell
Maggi: I need to go too
Felix: Me too
Ying-Lan: ^It's time to say bye.
Felix: I have 3 movies to watch
Ying-Lan: That's great!
Felix: Yesterday I watched the Rescue of Soldier Ryan
Felix: Is the name correct?
Maggi: I have to finish my salad and go to a grill partyx
Ying-Lan: I think I need some sleep now.
Ying-Lan: grill party?
Maggi: Not sure of the title in English Felix
Maggi: yes, where you barbeque
Felix: Have a nice grill party (whatever it is)
Felix: at this time??
Ying-Lan: see you.
Ying-Lan: next week.
Maggi: it is the afternoon here!
Maggi: bye Ying!
Felix: In Brazil bbq are generally in the morning, starting at
10:00 am and extending to the afternoon
Felix: Bye Maggi
Felix: Bye Ying
Maggi: here they start in the afternoon and go into the evening.
Maggi: bye Felix
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