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Chat with students Ying Lan from Taiwan, Moral from China, Felix from Brazil, and Bridgett from Jamaica - and teachers Michael C and Maggi
Michael's commentary: This was another long chat, and for a change it all happened at the Palace - just like the good old days! Michael and Maggi started off talking about Maggi's visit to Amsterdam (where she is going to meet Vance) and then one by one, Moral, Ying Lan, and Felix joined in. Ying Lan and Moral talked about the relationship between Taiwan and China, and then Ying Lan told a story from Taiwanese history. After Michael went to bed, the others continued till the Palace froze. Finally Bridget joined and she and Maggi talked women's business!
Maggi and Michael C have been chatting in the Palace when Moral appears:
Michael C: Hello Moral!
Maggi: Hey Moral
Moral: @64,64 !It's Moral
Michael C: Nice to meet you here Moral.
Maggi: How are you Moral?
Moral: hello, nice to meet all of you
Maggi: all of us...I think I am all here
Moral: ni hao, maggi
Maggi: ni hao
Michael C: Moral - while i think of it. I'm still waiting for you to authorise me on ICQ.
Moral: hello michael, nice to meet you here
Michael C: Maybe you can do that some time.
Moral: Ok, Michael. i know
Michael C: So where are you Moral? Home?
Moral: i am at home
Maggi: Ying should be coming soon
Michael C: Vance said you were here for 4 hours last week!!!!
Moral: lets talk and wait
Maggi: no...we were here for 4 hrs
Michael C: Oh - not with Moral.
Moral: no, michael, i was late,
Michael C: Ok
Maggi: talking with everyone who came and went
Moral: because i was busy to install softwares
Maggi: someone always turned up
Moral: maggi, why are so sleepy. are you too tired?
Michael C: You've done well Moral. It's not easy to get here.
Maggi: that can take time Moral
Moral: i downloaded place for a long time
Maggi: no...been doing my taxes...:-)
Moral: but just use it recently
Moral: yes , i use it much better(i think)
Maggi: ok shei shei
Moral: maggi, do you know RS company in Europe?
Maggi: Wwhat does RS stand for?
Moral: a component company, i don't know what it stands for
Moral: electric component
Maggi: which country are they based in?
Moral: i guess British
Maggi: I could find out
Moral: it means it is not so famous as they told me
Maggi: I also know someone in Cchina and she sells tableware
Maggi: I guess not Moral.
Michael C: I'm talking to YL - she's having tech problems...
Maggi: her nickname is Cat
Maggi: yes, cat
Moral: is he on the list?
Moral: michael, i did't ge you request
Michael C: YL's ICQ nickname is Cat?
Maggi: she is on my list...she iss also a single mother...very nice person
Maggi: no Michael...someone else I know in China
Moral: i get she is not YL
Maggi: no, she is not
Michael C: moral - just sent you an ICQ message. Did you get it?
Ying Lan joins the chat.
Ying-Lan: @64,64 !It's Ying-Lan
Moral: i got it
Ying-Lan: Hi, Everyone...
Moral: hello, yiinglan!
Ying-Lan: Nice to meet you again.
Ying-Lan: Hi, moral.
Ying-Lan: Hi, maggi.
Moral: nice to meet you yinglan
Ying-Lan: Moral, Are you at home?
Moral: yes, i am at home
Ying-Lan: You have your own computer, right?
Maggi: Hi Ying
Moral: yes, you are right, yinglan
Ying-Lan: That's great!
Ying-Lan: I knew that computer is still be expensive for Chinese.
Maggi: they are for most people Ying
Ying-Lan: Yes. it is.
Ying-Lan: I am wrong.
Moral: i always wanted to be here, and i am glad i make it now.
Maggi: it is nice to have you here...:-)
Ying-Lan: You mean you are happy to be in the Palace virtual classroom to talk to us?
Moral: computers may not be so expensive in china. many people have it
Maggi: I THINK IT IS AQMAZING WHEN i THINK BACK TO WHEN i STUDIED cHINESE IN SCHOOL.
Ying-Lan: Or you are happy to be in China?
Michael C: How rude of Maggi to shout at us.
Maggi: my finger slipped
Maggi: the laptop keyboard is smaller
Ying-Lan: Computer is popular in China, isn't it?
Moral: yes, ying
Michael C: Moral - do you now have an ICQ message asking you to authorise me?
Maggi: Back then China was closed and i WANTED TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE SO BADLY IN THEIR LANGUAGE.
Moral: many people arround me have it
Ying-Lan: Everyong could read any information from the internet like me?
Maggi: sorry...did it again
Michael C: Shouting again!
Moral: i don't get get it michael
Ying-Lan: Sorry, Maggi.
Maggi: this is why Clinton wants China in the WTO
Maggi: WHEN i TYPE like this IT MEANS SHOUTING
Ying-Lan: I knew that what Clinton has done.
Michael C: Well Moral - maybe just send me a short message and see what happens?
Maggi: well Clinton does not have the final say
Michael C: Why does Clinto want China in the WTO?
Maggi: I love the Chinese language
Ying-Lan: Michaelc, Can you send me the request?
Maggi: to open them up
Maggi: he figures this will do more than anything to keep the govt from going back nd restricting people again
Ying-Lan: I fthink Clinton wants China Goverment open his policy to accept something what has done well.
Michael C: Well Bill C is probably right about that.
Ying-Lan: what has done well in West Society.
Maggi: I think he is Michael
Maggi: we all know all too well the effects of market pressures
Maggi: I am not so sure it is the best thing for China Ying
Ying-Lan: In other words, if China open her market that will help American to get great pfofit.
Maggi: not neccessarily
Ying-Lan: But I think it is good for China and Taiwan.
Maggi: it will not be easy
Michael C: I agree with YL!
Ying-Lan: If Chinese people could read more information and get more knowledge.... they probablly chang their mind to make peace with Taiwan.
Maggi: sure the Americans are money oriented...why do you think Michael the new trend is to hire CEO's from Australia?
Ying-Lan: Who is CEO here?
Maggi: chief executive officer
Maggi: the head of a company
Michael C: Because Australian CEO's are cheaper?
Ying-Lan: Another new word.. CIO
Moral: i agree that china need the world, and the world needs china too
Maggi: they have the wild west mentality
Maggi: Moral is right
Maggi: We have to learn to live with each other
Ying-Lan: Moral... It doesn't matter with the NECESSARY. We are equal and independent.
Maggi: we cnnot ignore each other
Moral: great rewards willl come to those who can live togother
Maggi: nice swaying Moral:-)
Michael C: Great typing Maggi!
Maggi: thnks mc
Michael C: More great typing!
Moral: but yinglan, chinese people want taiwan just for some feeling,
Michael C: (sorry Maggi!)
Maggi: must be some ssort of Freudian slip...
Ying-Lan: What kind of feeling do you want?
Moral: some feeling of the whole nation.
Moral: you can understand.
Maggi: I think you have both grown too far apart Moral
Moral: i guess few nations tolerent apart
Moral: we went too far? maggi?
Maggi: you have different ideas of what it means to be Chinese
Michael C: Sorry Moral - what do you mean?
Ying-Lan: Today,I read a wonderful book talking about 228 event in train.
Moral: what about it yinglan
Maggi: Moral...you went in different directions
Ying-Lan: 228 is a sad event what happened in 1949.
Moral: with you?maggi
Michael C: Go on Ying....
Maggi: you may come bqck together in the future
Maggi: but i DON'T THINK FORCE IS THE ANSWER
Moral: Oh, massacre?
Michael C: (228 is a strange name for an event)
Maggi: did it again
Ying-Lan: 228 event changed the fate of Taiwan.
Michael C: So what was 228?
Maggi: no Moral...I think the mainland China and Taiwan have gone too far apart Moral
Moral: the use of force is not good , nobody wants to see it/
Moral: yes, i agre with you , maggi
Ying-Lan: The Chairman of Taiwan in 1949, he wanted to build Tawain to be a good place for Taiwanese after Taiwan come back to China from Japan.
Michael C: Yes....
Ying-Lan: His frist name is Chen.
Maggi: I hope that the people in power don't do anything stupid
Moral: i hope so too
Ying-Lan: Chen is a Chinese and love China very much.
Michael C: I'm listening Ying...
Ying-Lan: But He trusted some bad guys and those bad guys cheated him.
Michael C: What happened to Chen?
Ying-Lan: Those bad officer got a lot of money and made Tainwan hated them very much.
Ying-Lan: Some Taiwanses were bad especaillly some were good with Japanese.
Felix joined the chat.
Felix: @64,64 !It's Felix
Ying-Lan: Just call those Bad Taiwanese named "GAnG".
Michael C: On good terms with the Japanese/
Michael C: Hi Felix!
Felix: Hi everybody
Moral: welcome felix
Maggi: Hi Felix!
Felix: Thanks Moral.
Moral: you are welcome
Ying-Lan: The Bad officer stolen rice to sell to China mainland.
Michael C: YL is telling a story from Taiwan's history...
Moral: i don't know the event at all
Ying-Lan: Rice was expensive at that time.
Ying-Lan: People could not buy rice and the necessary from the market at the time.
Ying-Lan: So we can understand the people feeling.
Michael C: I'm still waiting to know why it's called 228?
Moral: it is difficult to feed yourself
Moral: I was that time
Ying-Lan: The cigarette bareau system runned, people only sold the cigarette they made .. it was illegal.
Maggi: how was carnival Felix?
Felix: for the first time it was peacful maggi..
Ying-Lan: One day, a poor woman sold the cigarette in street but she met the policemen. They qrgue...
Maggi: getting older Felix...:-)
Michael C: You must be getting old Felix (snap!0
Ying-Lan: fight.... In Taipei city. some peopel died. Peopel was angry what the policeman had done.
Ying-Lan: I forget the word.. what do you say about the war between people and soldier?
Felix: civil war?
Michael C: And how's your new life Felix - still only coming home on weekends? (Yes Civil war)
Ying-Lan: GANG "bad Taiwanese" hitted Chinese in Street...
Moral: Please ignore:ÖÐÎÄÊäÈë
Ying-Lan: Civil war was spead in Taiwan Island.
Felix: I am working a lot Michael... I haven`t had the change to enjoy the city yet.....
Michael C: Sometimes it can be like that eh? You just work and you could be anywhere....
Ying-Lan: GANG hitted any Chinese, I mean they alos hitted the good Chinses.
Felix: yeah.. But I am eager to give me a break and relax...
Michael C: YL - past tense of hit is hit!
Ying-Lan: After the Civil War, Govermant arrested a lot of people into jail.
Moral: how did they the poeple?
Michael C: Do you get a break sometime soon Felix?
Ying-Lan: We just knew a lot of poeple were innocent but died in jail.
Moral: identify chinese and taiwannesej
Ying-Lan: It is hard to say in English.
Michael C: Good question Moral.
Felix: I hope so Mc
Maggi: at least you can't be bored Felix
Felix: yes...but I need to fresh my mind.
Moral: Ok, yinglan, i'll be waiting for you chinese about it.
Michael C: How could the tell the difference between a Chinese and Taiwanese person?
Ying-Lan: The civial war was happened on 28, FEb. that's why we called it is 228 event.
Moral: they look same
Maggi: they can't look different
Michael C: 2/28 - so 228! Got it!
Ying-Lan: @64,64 !It's Ying-Lan
Ying-Lan: In Tawain, Some Taiwanese hated Chinese because of 228 event.
Ying-Lan: I don't think so the 228 event caused by Chinses.
Ying-Lan: When I read newspaper and watch what happened in the World.
Felix: Is Vance in Frisco?
Michael C: Ying - thanks for that story. Maybe you could write it down and we could correct it and put in on your webpage.
Michael C: Yeh - V is asleep in SF.
Felix: I see.
Ying-Lan: I also find another new 228 event happened in other country,.. like indonesia.
Michael C: And I'm about to be asleep here!
Moral: good idea
Felix: I just woke up
Ying-Lan: Peopel never learn the experience from the history.
Michael C: Maggi - can you continue doing the log?
Ying-Lan: Hi. Felix.
Felix: Hi Ying
Ying-Lan: Sorry for being a talktive... I talk too much.
Maggi: sure mc...justhad to anser nature's call
Felix: But Ying. we are here to talk.
Michael C: OK - take over when I quit.
Moral: michael, if i can speak here, may i speak to people face to face?
Maggi: how do you mean Moral?
Michael C: Do you mean with sound Moral?
Ying-Lan: Michael.. another qurestion... do you understand what I said?
Moral: i mean real face to face talk
Felix: are you at voice chat also?
Maggi: you mean with a camera then
Michael C: YL - I understood most of what you said. I will look at the log later and check anything I didn't understand.
Moral: i am can you practise speaking english like this?
Maggi: why not
Felix: Moral.. do you have a cam?
Maggi: they do in video conferencing
Moral: what is a cam
Maggi: a camra
Felix: cam is short for camera
Moral: no, i don'd have it
Felix: I think I am the only student who has it!!! what a pity
Michael C: I really must go folks. Have a wonderful time further. (Sorry I had to leave after you just got here Felix.)
Felix: Don`t worry Mc..
Michael C: Have a good week everyone.
Moral: Ok, bye michael, ask you later
Felix: 4 u 2 Mc
Michael C: OK Moral. Goodnight all.
Michael goes off to bed.
????: I dont know if I will be able to participate in Vance`s presentation
Ying-Lan: It is too early for me.
Moral: we don't know the date
Ying-Lan: I can not get up so early.
Felix: the time is ok for me.. But I think I will be at college.
Moral: it is 7 am here
Ying-Lan: maggi, do you understand what the 228 even is?
Felix: It`ll be 8 pm for me
Ying-Lan: How about your work Felix, are you at home?
Felix: no.. I am at work..
Maggi: Yes I do Ying.
Moral: maggi, you said you know a person in china. only on the Net ?
Ying-Lan: You are still working on Sunday?
Maggi: It is on Friday the 17th Moral....at 11 GMT
Felix: No Ying.. I live in the same place I work.
Maggi: Yes i DO yING...
Ying-Lan: Feliex, you live with your family now?
Felix: no.. My family is in another city....
Ying-Lan: You do not need to go home evey week...
Felix: Yep... But I was traveling and got here yesterday...
Moral: 11 pm GMt, or an?
Moral: or am?
Felix: And because of this trip the atmosphere there is not that good. :o))
Felix: 11 pm gtm
Ying-Lan: You will be happy after travelling.
Felix: Jealously..... That`s all about!
Moral: Ok, it is 7 am. I hoped it will be pm
Ying-Lan: What time is in your city? Moral.
Moral: 21:09, and how about you Ying?
Ying-Lan: What time is it in your city? It is 8:04 pm
Ying-Lan: I think you are earlier than me one hour.
Ying-Lan: but I am wrong. we are at the same time zone.
Moral: yes , i remember we are
Moral: what is the rooms in there? maggi?
Maggi: sorry...someone left a real mess in the conference room
Ying-Lan: Felix, can I delet "Bahia" in my icq list?
Moral: than you for cleaning it up
Maggi: I didn't
Moral: does the place always open in a whole weeK?
Maggi: clean up the room I mean
Felix: Maggi what does Rip a Fella's... mean?
Ying-Lan: You mean our virtual classroom?
Moral: yes, yinglan
Ying-Lan: The classroom is always open.. but we only come here on Sundya.
Moral: Ok, i know. i want have some friends here some other time
Ying-Lan: You could visit another room any time..
Moral: thank you ying, i know now
Felix: Maggi, what does Rip a Fella`s mean?
Maggi: a takeoff on Rockafeller
Maggi: his name
At this point the screen froze for all of us and we couldn't get back.
Then some time later Moral and I managed but Felix was busy and after Moral left
Brigitte showed up...
Maggi: @64,64 !It's Maggi
Moral: hi maggi
Maggi: what a trip
Maggi: now let's see if I can get Felix here
Moral: you are so tired, cheers up!
Moral: can you get him?
Maggi: I sent him a mag on icq
Maggi: Ying must have been kicked off
Moral: even in Icq
Maggi: yes...she is not there
Moral: i don't have both of them on my list
Maggi: Felix is still there
Maggi: how is the weather where you are?
Maggi: I wish so much for Spring
Maggi: the birds too!
Moral: it is spring here.
Maggi: Felix is busy with something els3
Maggi: how warm is it?
Moral: about 20 C degree
Maggi: ohhhhhh nice!
Moral: how is your weather?
Maggi: grey and about 10C
Moral: a little cold
Maggi: A little sun would help
Moral: i am going to change my job to RS local branch, so i asked you
Moral: do you get back to the us often?
Maggi: what kind of company is it?
Maggi: no...I don't go often...wevery 3-5 yrs
Moral: it is a electric component company
Moral: in British
Maggi: in Britian...electronic components...
Maggi: I could look on the stock exchange
Moral: i 'll be on the position of sales engineer
Maggi: wow...good for you!
Moral: i don't know if it is a good company.
Moral: can you speak germany language/
Maggi: MAYBE THEY WILL SEND YOU ABROAD...WOULD IT BE DIFFICULT TO GET PERMISSION TO TRAVEL?
Moral: it is almost impossible
Maggi: I am fluent in German
Maggi: that is a shame
Maggi: maybe when China belongs to the WTO
Moral: do you think people can use second lungusge as good as native users?
Moral: china is underway to WTO
Maggi: only if you grow up with both
Maggi: my son has two mother tongues
Moral: it is teffific
Maggi: I am good but have aqn accent...he doesn't
Moral: OK , i've got to leave now. bye, Maggi.
Maggi: bye Moral...nice talking with you...:-)
Moral: see you some other day
Maggi: it was always my dream
Maggi: to actually talk to someone in China
Maggi: dreams do come true...:-)
Moral leaves and Bridgett show up.
Bridgett: @64,64 !It's Bridgett
Maggi: mORAL LEFT...
Bridgett: I maggi how are
Maggi: he had to go
Maggi: how are you?
Maggi: I'm fine
Bridgett: who is that bird on the roof
Maggi: oh...Michael always leaves his birds all around
Maggi: never picks up after himself...
Bridgett: I wake up late
Maggi: how late?
Bridgett: I am try to get my selt a new look
Maggi: ah...but you look just fine
Maggi: look at this
Maggi: I have better stuff n my other computer
Bridgett: this one dont have a lot of good thing ,
Maggi: I don't hve much here
Bridgett: I have to do it some other time, so every one is gone
Maggi: yes...most to bed
Maggi: wrong side of the world
Bridgett: I am just waking up and I have to sew a lot of stuff today
Maggi: sometimes I can say ggod night to Michael and good morning al in the same day...
Maggi: oh...you are busy today too!!
Maggi: I need to make some new clothes
Bridgett: yes m he and vance is that way they are one whole day in front of me
Maggi: but i DON'T HAVE THE TIME
Bridgett: yes what do you like
Maggi: Vance is 4 hrs ahead of me
Maggi: and Michael 9.5...
Bridgett: sand me a photo and I will do you some skechs
Maggi: but the summer time this month will change that
Bridgett: I sew all my clothes and my sister
Maggi: I am not sure yet what I want to make
Bridgett: I have lot of summer stuff
Maggi: I have even made a 3 pice pin-strped suit for a man
Maggi: 3 piece
Maggi: that was a lot of work
Bridgett: I dont do men stuff, only shirt
Maggi: then he got too fat to wear it!!
Bridgett: yes men stuff is a lot of work
Maggi: shirts I made lots of...
Maggi: at first I put the buttons on the wrong side...:-)
Bridgett: the shirt are nice to make
Maggi: if you do the buttons right!
Bridgett: there button is on the leftside and woman is on the right
Maggi: I figure who cares
Maggi: as long as you can button it
Bridgett: everthing for a man is on the left
Maggi: they are left brain oriented...
Maggi: maaybe that is why
Bridgett: hay maggi you said it they are
Maggi: even hangs to the left...:-)
Maggi: oh boy...mc and Vance will get on me for that...:-)
Bridgett: maggi I have to go my daughter want brakefast
Maggi: I have lots to do too!
Bridgett: they will not like it one bit , but its the truth
Maggi: :-)m I know
Maggi: magnatism maybe
Bridgett: I will see you later maggi
Maggi: bye Brigitte
Maggi: have a great day!
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